Go Back   Home > Atlanta Reef Club Forums > Special Interest Groups > Large Tanks
Register / Join the ARC Community Chat Gallery MemberMap Forums Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Visit all of our sponsors


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-08-2011, 11:55 AM   #1
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
240g crash

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffMuse View Post
Man, that is an awesome looking tank! VERY well done!

I am sorry to hear that it went down hill... what happened?
Thanks.

We had a baby, so the tank was neglected for a few months. Corals started losing color and a couple things started to STN. I assumed it was due to lack of maintenance, but even after 1500g of water changes in the past couple months, things continue to melt away. I've never had this kind of issue, and despite everything that I know and have tried, things continue to get worse. I'm fully willing to accept that it's something I've done, but I don't have a clue anymore what that might be...
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 12:01 PM   #2
mysterybox mysterybox is offline
 
mysterybox's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Age: 52
Posts: 8,459
City: Flowery Branch
State: GA
Other Interests: Family,Photography, Art, Notre Dame, History, "Fava Beans and a big Amarone"!
water changes, and change out carbon and gfo every 10 days....move to vodka could also be an answer......


check for bugs.
__________________
Ralph's Build
"I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary." Lou Holtz

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 12:06 PM   #3
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysterybox View Post
water changes, and change out carbon and gfo every 10 days....move to vodka could also be an answer......


check for bugs.
I've tried all that (except the vodka, and I'm not going there), plus everything else I can possibly think of: Disabling ca reactor, GFO/no GFO, GAC/no GAC, no dosing, no ozone, no UV, using Salinity salt with 100-200g/week water changes, cleaned all pumps, checked flow inside tank, replaced all bulbs, tested the water, tested for electrical grounding, completely cleaned out my sump, and a few other things I can't think of at the moment.
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 3:54 PM   #4
Eddie Eddie is offline

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 32
City: Kennesaw
State: GA
Occupation: CEO
Other Interests: Guitar, Studio production
Is that beautiful blue/green clam doing ok???


 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:22 PM   #5
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
Is that beautiful blue/green clam doing ok???

Unfortunately, no - I lost that clam as well. I do still have the teardrop maxima (the other large clam next to it), but the blue one was lost somewhere in all this mess... probably one of my most depressing losses...
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:28 PM   #6
JDabs JDabs is offline
 
JDabs's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 424
City: Acworth
State: GA
Occupation: IT Engineer
Other Interests: Sports, RC Toys, Dirt Bikes
Wow Chris! I'm really sorry to hear that! Your tank was awesome. You have some amazing things in that tank and I couldn't stop telling people about it when I came over last. I hope that you can turn things around and get it to bounce back.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:32 PM   #7
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Thanks. It's been frustrating and depressing, for sure.
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:38 PM   #8
mapleredta mapleredta is offline

 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Age: 26
Posts: 2,525
City: Cochran
State: GA
Chris, can you post your latest water parameters? Have you checked for stray voltage?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:42 PM   #9
LilRobb LilRobb is offline

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,035
City: Acworth
State: GA
Occupation: Logistics Manager
Other Interests: My cars
I got a confirmation for the testing Chris, will have results friday or so...

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:43 PM   #10
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Quote:
Originally Posted by mapleredta View Post
Chris, can you post your latest water parameters?
Ammonia, nitrate: 0 ppm
Phosphate: 0.03 ppm
Alkalinity: 7.5 dKH
Calcium: 400 ppm
pH: 7.95-8.1
Temp: 75-77

I know there's some nitrate / phosphate in the system, as I have some cyano on the sandbed and some hair algae that grows on my overflow teeth. But that's expected with the amount of coral death I've been having.

Quote:
Have you checked for stray voltage?
Yup. I even tested with everything turned off, to get a baseline, and then turned on each pump, heater, etc, etc, on until the end - the voltage between the tank water and house ground always floated around 0.000.
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:45 PM   #11
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Quote:
Originally Posted by LilRobb View Post
I got a confirmation for the testing Chris, will have results friday or so...
Great - thanks.

Robin is having my water tested by some super secret mass spectrometer or something. Or maybe it was a monkey in his basement. Either way, it'll be 3rd party verification.
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:47 PM   #12
beccamc10 beccamc10 is offline

 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,434
City: Stockbridge
State: GA
Can you ID the 2 corals in your tank I sent you a pm about.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:48 PM   #13
haninja haninja is offline
 
haninja's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,546
City: Alpharetta
State: GA
We asked Ouling to taste your water for confirmation...

Sorry to hear about your tank Chris.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:48 PM   #14
Amici Amici is offline

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,959
City: Alpharetta
State: GA
Chris, Ive seen this happen a few times in systems and could never figure out the issue either. What I ended up doing was setting up a stand alone system with new water and existing system rock. I mainly used that to frag large pieces of coral from and put them in that tank to recover. My goal was to prevent losing the whole colony. I found that eventually the tank would bounce back but without removing a good portion of corals most would have been lost.

I have a 4'x4' frag tank/stand and 400w halide sitting in my storage unit. If you want to borrow it to hold some corals in its yours.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:49 PM   #15
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Quote:
Originally Posted by beccamc10 View Post
Can you ID the 2 corals in your tank I sent you a pm about.
This one is just a random tabling acro that I got from Fosters and Smith:

http://www.atlantareefclub.org/~arci...e/IMG_1483.jpg


And this one is my "shaggy watermelon".

http://www.atlantareefclub.org/~arci...e/IMG_1478.jpg


I'm not doing frags right now, due to everything talked about in this thread, but you may be able to get some of the shaggy watermelon from someone else in the club - I've fragged it a good bit.
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:50 PM   #16
beccamc10 beccamc10 is offline

 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,434
City: Stockbridge
State: GA
Thoes are the 2 nicest corals I have seen.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:52 PM   #17
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amici View Post
Chris, Ive seen this happen a few times in systems and could never figure out the issue either. What I ended up doing was setting up a stand alone system with new water and existing system rock. I mainly used that to frag large pieces of coral from and put them in that tank to recover. My goal was to prevent losing the whole colony. I found that eventually the tank would bounce back but without removing a good portion of corals most would have been lost.
And it's quickly headed that way... I've got probably 60-70% of my corals still, but a lot of the nice ones are already gone. I removed a soccer-ball sized piece of pink birdsnest (used to be pink, anyway) just the other day. I also lost my colony of pink stylophora - the size of a football when I pulled out the skeleton...

Quote:
I have a 4'x4' frag tank/stand and 400w halide sitting in my storage unit. If you want to borrow it to hold some corals in its yours.
Thanks. I actually have a 140g frag tank ready to go (actually, being used to hold corals for the frag meeting this weekend when they arrive). I just haven't committed to tearing corals out of my tank yet...
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:53 PM   #18
mojo mojo is offline
 
mojo's Avatar

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,172
City: Roswell
State: GA
Occupation: Software Developer
Other Interests: Snow Skiing, Scuba, Photography
Quote:
Originally Posted by beccamc10 View Post
Thoes are the 2 nicest corals I have seen.
Fortunately, I still have both of these. They've been fragged and distributed as "insurance"...
__________________
I am no more and I have nothing left to give

Send a message via ICQ to mojo Send a message via AIM to mojo Send a message via MSN to mojo
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 4:56 PM   #19
Amici Amici is offline

ARC Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,959
City: Alpharetta
State: GA
Believe me, I realize how frustrating it is. I had this Myagi tort the size of a softball that I had been growing for years and years as my show piece. It was the first to go downhill of some of my SPS and I now have 4 good size frags left to show for it :(

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 5:06 PM   #20
Barbara Barbara is online now

 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,864
City: Woodstock
State: GA
Occupation: Health Insurance
I'm so sorry Chris. Your tank was truly beautiful. I hope you get it under control. As you know, I'm going through my own personal "reefer shame" right now, so I feel your pain.

Oh well, maybe starting anew will revive your love of the hobby.

 
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 users and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:19 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Atlanta Reef Club, Inc.