AquaEuro 265 First Take

[Big D]

Hahn lately has been referencing Qiuet One pumps as being the same manufacturer as the Sicce pumps. Looking at them, the valute on the Sicce's looks alot different, but then I've never taken the shroud off of a Quiet One. They are getting some good numbers out of mesh modded QO's too. Not sure if it woould be a direct bolt on replacement (most likey not), but they are much cheaper than the DAS's.

Thiago, if your looking for a skimmer, you might want to consider an EX series DAS. They are getting really good reviews and work right out of the box with no modding. The one thing I notice right off the bat on them is the larger neck size. The AE seem to be smaller, but if you like to mod, it may be the way to go. I think I'm going to start offing some extra equipment so I can buy the mother of all skimmers (well, maybe the step mother).


Big D

[Bleedingthought]

Originally Posted by Cameron

Two different animals... well almost. The pump configuration on the AE400 is "classic" and it does have more pumps. Past that the AE265 is much taller by about 6", but the 400 is larger around by about 2". Clearly the 400 was designed for a larger tank, but with the AB pumps on them I think it starts to even out pretty fast IMO. The AE400 can't handle 3 ABs from my understanding so it is really down to what fits in your setup more than anything else IMO. If you have room in your sump, the 400 is hard to beat. If you want to run it external and/or skim from the overflows, the AE265 is likley your better choice.

Well, skimming from the overflow is more efficient and it is what I had wanted to do. Is the 400 not an internal recirculating? Couldn't tell from the 2 pictures I saw. Is it intended to recirculate water inside the sump? That doesn't sound nearly as efficient, if so. But I do plan to have an in-sump skimmer for the 210G system and I do have plenty of room.

Would I have room/time to upgrade the pumps on the AE400 and still handle the 210G for a little while? I would probably upgrade one pump at a time as money comes in, if I were to go with that skimmer.

[Bleedingthought]

Originally Posted by Big D

Hahn lately has been referencing Qiuet One pumps as being the same manufacturer as the Sicce pumps. Looking at them, the valute on the Sicce's looks alot different, but then I've never taken the shroud off of a Quiet One. They are getting some good numbers out of mesh modded QO's too. Not sure if it woould be a direct bolt on replacement (most likey not), but they are much cheaper than the DAS's.

Thiago, if your looking for a skimmer, you might want to consider an EX series DAS. They are getting really good reviews and work right out of the box with no modding. The one thing I notice right off the bat on them is the larger neck size. The AE seem to be smaller, but if you like to mod, it may be the way to go. I think I'm going to start offing some extra equipment so I can buy the mother of all skimmers (well, maybe the step mother).


Big D

Big D, I was actually going to post in your thread to ask what skimmer you're currently using.

You got a link to that DAS EX? How much is it going for?

I'm not big into constantly modding/fiddling with things/equipment but I'm willing to mod something and then be able to forget about it.

Also, what are you 'offing' from your stock pile?

[Big D]

Originally Posted by Bleedingthought

Big D, I was actually going to post in your thread to ask what skimmer you're currently using.

You got a link to that DAS EX? How much is it going for?

I'm not big into constantly modding/fiddling with things/equipment but I'm willing to mod something and then be able to forget about it.

Also, what are you 'offing' from your stock pile?

I'm using an MR-2 powered by an Ocean Runner 6500. It does a great job, but I have to tweak it hear and there. The pump actually pushes the Beckett great, there was a question as to whether it would or not before I set my tank up. It only pulls around 100 watts or so, but in retrospec, I have set my entire system up to be efficient. Beckett skimmers are known for being everything but that. The skimmer I'm looking at is a monster, but it's a needlewheel and let's just say I wouldn't have to upgrade if I move up in tank size.

Here's a link to the DAS's at Petoroma:

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As far as what I'll have up for sale... it'll probably be quite a bit of stuff, including a new PS3 still sealed.


Big D

[Cameron]

Originally Posted by Bleedingthought

Is it $70 to ship it?

I think it is about $50 or $60. $45 for the AE265, but often the price he is selling them at includes shipping. You will have to ask.

Originally Posted by Bleedingthought

I've heard good things about the orca skimmers as well. Only thing you lost me on was that you said that the Orca 8.5" RC won't be as efficient as the AER265 (with ABs) but will perform as well or better? Do you mean it's not as energy efficient but will perform better nonetheless?

I mean the AB pumps use less wattage to run than a single big H3 pump. The AB pumps are very effecient and are considered one of the top dawgs in the air to wattage measurements.

Hahn lately has been referencing Qiuet One pumps as being the same manufacturer as the Sicce pumps. Looking at them, the valute on the Sicce's looks alot different, but then I've never taken the shroud off of a Quiet One. They are getting some good numbers out of mesh modded QO's too. Not sure if it woould be a direct bolt on replacement (most likey not), but they are much cheaper than the DAS's.

The jury is still out on the QO pumps, but the prelim numbers seem pretty good. They are still pushing a bit too much water to be as good as AB.

Thiago, if your looking for a skimmer, you might want to consider an EX series DAS. They are getting really good reviews and work right out of the box with no modding. The one thing I notice right off the bat on them is the larger neck size. The AE seem to be smaller, but if you like to mod, it may be the way to go.

DAS skimmers are really good bang for the buck for sure, but shipping has been a big issue with these skimmers. You can pretty much count on zero warranty as people have been having problems with items replaced and the acrylic used in the DAS skimmers has been somewhat less than ideal. Course they are $400 and it includes two AB pumps with no work to get going.

The skimmer I'm looking at is a monster, but it's a needlewheel and let's just say I wouldn't have to upgrade if I move up in tank size.

Let me guess... Orca with a sequence needlewheel.... I will drive down just to touch it if that is what you are getting.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by Cameron

Let me guess... Orca with a sequence needlewheel.... I will drive down just to touch it if that is what you are getting.[/font]

Well, that's what I've been eyeing... but man they are $$$. Here's another twist in it too:

Link



David

[Bleedingthought]

Originally Posted by Big D

Well, that's what I've been eyeing... but man they are $$$. Here's another twist in it too:

Link



David

[Bleedingthought]

Originally Posted by Big D

I'm using an MR-2 powered by an Ocean Runner 6500. It does a great job, but I have to tweak it hear and there. The pump actually pushes the Beckett great, there was a question as to whether it would or not before I set my tank up. It only pulls around 100 watts or so, but in retrospec, I have set my entire system up to be efficient. Beckett skimmers are known for being everything but that. The skimmer I'm looking at is a monster, but it's a needlewheel and let's just say I wouldn't have to upgrade if I move up in tank size.

Here's a link to the DAS's at Petoroma:

Link<<<---


As far as what I'll have up for sale... it'll probably be quite a bit of stuff, including a new PS3 still sealed.


Big D

Yeah, definitely going the needlewheel route! And I'm definitely not in interested in a PS3. But I'd like to know what else is in that list!

[Bleedingthought]

Originally Posted by Cameron

I mean the AB pumps use less wattage to run than a single big H3 pump. The AB pumps are very effecient and are considered one of the top dawgs in the air to wattage measurements.[/font]

Hmm, at the end of the run, I'd pick skimming performance over energy efficiency (well, to a certain extent, obviously! ).

It seems like the Orcas might be at the top of the list at this moment with the AE400 right behind it.

[Bleedingthought]

Cameron, is the AE400 an internally recirculating skimmer like the AER265? It almost seems like (in the pictures) that the 3 pumps draw water from the sump. :?

[Cameron]

Not recirc... they suck in that is why it is an insump only. People do mod them for recirc though, but that is some work.

[Bleedingthought]

Too much work.