Old Silicone? - Page 2

Rbredding · 01-13-2010, 5:10 PM

I just went with All Glass Aquarium's Black aquarium silicone... it's only $10 / tube and you know you're putting the right stuff on...

weaglereefer · 01-13-2010, 5:56 PM

Nope, no black. All of the silicones now say not safe for aquarium use. The ones I've used in the past did not say that. I don't know if their formula changed or what.

RyanP · 01-13-2010, 6:18 PM

Thanks AU, i found some at Grainger that DAP makes that is FDA certified and is food safe. I would say that its fish safe too.

johnr2604 · 01-13-2010, 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by au01st

Nope, no black. All of the silicones now say not safe for aquarium use. The ones I've used in the past did not say that. I don't know if their formula changed or what.

Its been at least a year and a half that the GE silicone I has said not for aquarium use. I was gonna use it when I built a sump then and decided not to. Almost all household silicone is gonna have microban in it now. Try walking back to where the acrylic is at in a red tube you will see 100% silicone. This is what I used on cliffs sump and its been fine.

weaglereefer · 01-13-2010, 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by johnr2604

Its been at least a year and a half that the GE silicone I has said not for aquarium use.

That's about the last time I bought a tube, too, lol.

bratliff · 01-14-2010, 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by au01st

Nope, no black. All of the silicones now say not safe for aquarium use. The ones I've used in the past did not say that. I don't know if their formula changed or what.

So, it wasn't just me being stupid.

Hmm... so, any other local stuff? I found stuff I can order, but, that really sucks when you run and need just one more tube!

And that DAP stuff is expensive for how much you get.

RyanP · 01-14-2010, 8:13 PM

im picking mine up tomorrow for like 6 bucks a tube

RyanP · 01-14-2010, 8:14 PM

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4MY67

bratliff · 01-14-2010, 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanP

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4MY67

I hope that works, but, read the back label before you buy it. I swear HD carries the same stuff and it reads somewhere "not for use below waterline" or something similar...

RyanP · 01-15-2010, 6:59 AM

I guess its a crap shoot then because the one everyone says to use GE 1 also says not recommended for aquarium use if you call them.

phil47952 · 01-15-2010, 9:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanP

I guess its a crap shoot then because the one everyone says to use GE 1 also says not recommended for aquarium use if you call them.

I understand this to be a sealant and not an adhesive, I think there's a diff....Something to think about maybe..

Phil

RyanP · 01-15-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bratliff

I hope that works, but, read the back label before you buy it. I swear HD carries the same stuff and it reads somewhere "not for use below waterline" or something similar...

You were right, i got to the store and read the back. It said not to use under the water line. Cant find this stuff anywhere

RyanP · 01-15-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rbredding

I just went with All Glass Aquarium's Black aquarium silicone... it's only $10 / tube and you know you're putting the right stuff on...

Where'd you get it from?

RyanP · 01-15-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanP

Where'd you get it from?

I found it through glasscages @ $8

Rbredding · 01-15-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanP

Where'd you get it from?

online search for
all glass aquarium silicone... white tube with red lettering.. i believe its the 10oz size...

thik mine came off ebay.. but almost any local fish sponsor should be able to order you some..

RyanP · 01-15-2010, 11:22 AM

yeah i just got off the phone with glass cages and they have a 18 dollar minimum shipping charge. So all together it would have been 4 tubes $32(what they recommended) + $18 shipping = $50 to reseal. Think i might rethink using the black.

bratliff · 01-15-2010, 11:58 AM

Well, I ordered this stuff. I hope it'll work for what I'm doing. It's supposed to be delivered today, so, I'll get to work with it this weekend. I really wish there were a good local source for this stuff.

I used the GE Silicone 1 when I first built my sump/refugium for my 90g to hold the glass panes in place. It failed after a couple days of being submerged. I thought I'd just bought the wrong stuff.

RyanP · 01-15-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bratliff

Well, I ordered this stuff. I hope it'll work for what I'm doing. It's supposed to be delivered today, so, I'll get to work with it this weekend. I really wish there were a good local source for this stuff.

I used the GE Silicone 1 when I first built my sump/refugium for my 90g to hold the glass panes in place. It failed after a couple days of being submerged. I thought I'd just bought the wrong stuff.

how long did u let it cure?

bratliff · 01-15-2010, 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanP

how long did u let it cure?

At least 72 hours, if I remember. Probably longer.

Tony_Caliente · 01-15-2010, 11:48 PM

I had a similiar experience with a never used, but previously owned tank. I removed all of the silicone and thoroghly cleaned the seams with acetone, then rinsed then dried and applied a generous bead of aquarium silicone. Waiting almost 10 days before filling the tank. Leaked like a sieve. Went to Wal-mart and brought a whole set-up for $100. For me, it wasn't worth the aggravation. I hope you have a better experience.

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01-13-2010, 5:56 PM	#22
weaglereefer Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 5,219 City: Auburn State: AL Occupation: Retail LP Investigator Other Interests: Autos, guns, beverages	Nope, no black. All of the silicones now say not safe for aquarium use. The ones I've used in the past did not say that. I don't know if their formula changed or what.

01-13-2010, 6:18 PM	#23
RyanP Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 91 City: Columbus State: GA	Thanks AU, i found some at Grainger that DAP makes that is FDA certified and is food safe. I would say that its fish safe too.

01-14-2010, 8:13 PM	#27
RyanP Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 91 City: Columbus State: GA	im picking mine up tomorrow for like 6 bucks a tube

01-14-2010, 8:14 PM	#28
RyanP Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 91 City: Columbus State: GA	http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4MY67

01-15-2010, 6:59 AM	#30
RyanP Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 91 City: Columbus State: GA	I guess its a crap shoot then because the one everyone says to use GE 1 also says not recommended for aquarium use if you call them.

01-15-2010, 11:22 AM	#36
RyanP Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 91 City: Columbus State: GA	yeah i just got off the phone with glass cages and they have a 18 dollar minimum shipping charge. So all together it would have been 4 tubes $32(what they recommended) + $18 shipping = $50 to reseal. Think i might rethink using the black.

01-15-2010, 11:58 AM	#37
bratliff Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 835 City: Stone Mountain State: GA Occupation: Senior Voice Engineer with Turner Broadcasting Other Interests: Cars	Well, I ordered this stuff. I hope it'll work for what I'm doing. It's supposed to be delivered today, so, I'll get to work with it this weekend. I really wish there were a good local source for this stuff. I used the GE Silicone 1 when I first built my sump/refugium for my 90g to hold the glass panes in place. It failed after a couple days of being submerged. I thought I'd just bought the wrong stuff.

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