http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/aquarium_filter/saltwater_must_have.php?gclid=CJ60_9GukqgCFRNe7Aod YUpqBw

I don't trust anything with a google add and a talking head.

Flame away.

Anyone tried it?

Theres a deconstruction thread out there somewhere. It's PVC with magnets taped to it with electrical tape. Such a scam.

it made my fish healthy in 24 hours!!!!

I had 7 fish in a tank and all of them had MarineICH..









nah, not really, I just couldn't resist...

I just want a miracle cure to red slime...

I've scrubbed, it's come back harder.

I've treated, it's come back stronger.

I've changed flow, changed water, changed feeding... it just WON'T GO AWAY!

Theres a deconstruction thread out there somewhere. It's PVC with magnets taped to it with electrical tape. Such a scam.

http://www.reefs.org/library/testing/ecoaqualizer

I'll sell ya some shower curtain magnets taped up with electrical tape and some PVC for ONLY $29.99! :lol:

Jenn

I just want a miracle cure to red slime...

I've scrubbed, it's come back harder.

I've treated, it's come back stronger.

I've changed flow, changed water, changed feeding... it just WON'T GO AWAY!

Reduce your phos and nitrates, test your rodi TDS and siphon it out as much as you can since it has phos locked up in it. I've heard that red slime remover worked for some people but IMO it's a band aid because just like any other algae, if there is fuel for it then it rears it's ugly head.

They sent me a couple free 5 or 6 years ago to try out. I was/am pretty skeptical but I plumbed on into my return line on my 58 reef. The tank looked great before I put it on, it still looked great after I put it on, so I guess I can at least say it didn't harm anything. Really I don't think it made a bit of difference but I left it on just cause I had it. That is until one night when one end popped loose and my pump started shooting water all over the floor, thankfully I was home a caught it in time but I did make for a late night run to the store for a new return hose.

If you want to try it out. I have one you can have and try. I ran it on my 120 and it's just laying around right now

To be honest you can just tape magnets to your return line and see what happens. Thats all this thing is.

How can companies that make good products go out of business and these clowns are still around? If I sold a rip-off product I'd be bankrupt before the weekend I'm sure.

I'm not going to say wether it works or not since I never notice a difference. But I think there may be a trick to as how their still in business. It's due to the fact that they sell a product in which can not be tested. It doesn't harm your tank in anyway nor does it improve it. So you can't really prove that their product doesn't work. It's kinda like putting a ballvalve on your return line and having it open all the way. It doesn't do anything to your flow. I guess the same concept can be applied to this and that's the reason their still in business. Hope that made sense.

I almost fell for this crap once also. Don't buy it. You'll be wasting your money.

I'm not going to say wether it works or not since I never notice a difference. But I think there may be a trick to as how their still in business. It's due to the fact that they sell a product in which can not be tested. It doesn't harm your tank in anyway nor does it improve it. So you can't really prove that their product doesn't work. It's kinda like putting a ballvalve on your return line and having it open all the way. It doesn't do anything to your flow. I guess the same concept can be applied to this and that's the reason their still in business. Hope that made sense.

It can be tested and was tested in the link above Jenn posted. It's a scam and waste of money.

It can be tested and was tested in the link above Jenn posted. It's a scam and waste of money.

I understand that it was tested. But at the same time it can't be proven that it will have an ill affect on your tank. That's where I'm tryin to get to. Let's use the bio pellets or example. Most all of us know it works if we attack it at the write angle. But some people have had really bad experience with them and say they will never use it again due to the fact that it made their tank worst. The aqua eco in the other hand has no ill affect in your tank at all no matter how you have it set up. So the only people that will rant about it are the ones that read bad about it but have never used it. Say like me. I've used it and I still have it. I don't rant about it because I never had any ill affects caused by it. I've read many bad things about it but it still doesn't change my mind and make me dislike it. So yea I wasted $100 on it. But the. Again that's what this while hobby is about. You can buy some coral and fish and have some loses with it as well. Was that a waste of money? No it wasnt. So I can say the same for this. It wasn't a waste of money because to me it was an experiment.

Anyways. Like I said. I have one laying around. So OP, if you want to try it out. Your more then welcome to come by and pick it up and try it out.

At least there is real science behind biopellets - and they WORK. They don't profess to "eliminate the need for water changes" like the shower-curtain magnet thingy claims. If you believed that malarky and set your tank on auto-pilot, sooner or later you'd be in for a very rude awakening.

There's no substitute for good husbandry, I don't care how many gadgets one has on their tank .... OR how few.

We maintain a lot of lower-tech tanks, and a few higher tech ones. Water quality is fine in both because they get regular maintenance and we test the water and pay attention to the results.

At the end of the day, the garbage out must equal or exceed the garbage in. There is no magic device for that.

Jenn

I understand that it was tested. But at the same time it can't be proven that it will have an ill affect on your tank. That's where I'm tryin to get to. Let's use the bio pellets or example. Most all of us know it works if we attack it at the write angle. But some people have had really bad experience with them and say they will never use it again due to the fact that it made their tank worst. The aqua eco in the other hand has no ill affect in your tank at all no matter how you have it set up. So the only people that will rant about it are the ones that read bad about it but have never used it. Say like me. I've used it and I still have it. I don't rant about it because I never had any ill affects caused by it. I've read many bad things about it but it still doesn't change my mind and make me dislike it. So yea I wasted $100 on it. But the. Again that's what this while hobby is about. You can buy some coral and fish and have some loses with it as well. Was that a waste of money? No it wasnt. So I can say the same for this. It wasn't a waste of money because to me it was an experiment.

Dude.....you are trying to compare a scientifically researched vodka dosing method which people can easily overdose and screw up with a PVC pipe that has magnets taped to it with electrical tape. Ive seen a few of them from my couple years of doing maintenance on tanks and the people that claimed they "worked" on their tank had nitrates through the rough, couldnt keep SPS and had massive algae growth that they thought was a plant that was good to have. Im sorry you wasted $100 but don't misguide someone into thinking it does anything whatsoever to your aquarium.

I agree with what your saying Jenn, but all I'm saying is we shouldn't bash a product like how we shouldn't bash a sponsor. We give the sponsors a chance to make things right so we should the same for this company. They guarantee it will work or else you can return it within a year with no questions asked. So if you don't lime it. Return it!! Don't beat them down to the ground like that. If that were the case then I'd like to sit here and bash the he$$ out of some sponsors. I also agree with the husbandry as well Jenn. I have all the gadgets for my tank as well but I also do a 15% WC every week. So I guess I can leave it at this. RETURN IT If you don't like it. You had a while year to do so.

I agree with what your saying Jenn, but all I'm saying is we shouldn't bash a product like how we shouldn't bash a sponsor. We give the sponsors a chance to make things right so we should the same for this company. They guarantee it will work or else you can return it within a year with no questions asked. So if you don't lime it. Return it!! Don't beat them down to the ground like that. If that were the case then I'd like to sit here and bash the he$$ out of some sponsors. I also agree with the husbandry as well Jenn. I have all the gadgets for my tank as well but I also do a 15% WC every week. So I guess I can leave it at this. RETURN IT If you don't like it. You had a while year to do so.

I agree with you about bashing. I know everyone can bash a sponsor for one thing or another. Does it make them a bad sponsor? Nope

Dude.....you are trying to compare a scientifically researched vodka dosing method which people can easily overdose and screw up with a PVC pipe that has magnets taped to it with electrical tape. Ive seen a few of them from my couple years of doing maintenance on tanks and the people that claimed they "worked" on their tank had nitrates through the rough, couldnt keep SPS and had massive algae growth that they thought was a plant that was good to have. Im sorry you wasted $100 but don't misguide someone into thinking it does anything whatsoever to your aquarium.

RETURN IT!! It says it on the box!

I agree with what your saying Jenn, but all I'm saying is we shouldn't bash a product like how we shouldn't bash a sponsor. We give the sponsors a chance to make things right so we should the same for this company. They guarantee it will work or else you can return it within a year with no questions asked. So if you don't lime it. Return it!! Don't beat them down to the ground like that. If that were the case then I'd like to sit here and bash the he$$ out of some sponsors. I also agree with the husbandry as well Jenn. I have all the gadgets for my tank as well but I also do a 15% WC every week. So I guess I can leave it at this. RETURN IT If you don't like it. You had a while year to do so.

Read the rules, you can't bash sponsors because they are our guests that "pay" for sponsorship either in the form of a discount, with goods for raffles or with $$. You are talking about stuff you have no clue about and your comparisons are ridiculous. Also if you read the rules, you ARE ALLOWED TO post a bad experience with a sponsor as long as you go about it the right way.

Oh btw I have super duper spiffy live rock that had gnomes that only come out when you arent around. Its only $50 a lb. LMK how much you want but you arent allowed to bash it!


RETURN IT!! It says it on the box!

Did you read what I posted? People I did maintenance for bought it. I didnt fall for their scam.

RETURN IT!! It says it on the box!

Then why are you complaining about it? I don't see the point of you ranting about it if you've never had first hand experience with it. I agree that you may have read and heard bad things about it. But you've never used it!! can you say that I'm an a$$ because you've never meet me? I can tell you for sure that many people on here will disagree that I'm one.
This is hopeless. I give up. All I can say is if you don't like it or whoever bought it doesn't like it. Return it!! For those that want to try it. I have one You can try out for as long as you want. FOR FREE! That word brings music to your ears doesn't it? :)

Then why are you complaining about it? I don't see the point of you ranting about it if you've never had first hand experience with it. I agree that you may have read and heard bad things about it. But you've never used it!! can you say that I'm an a$$ because you've never meet me? I can tell you for sure that many people on here will disagree that I'm one.
This is hopeless. I give up. All I can say is if you don't like it or whoever bought it doesn't like it. Return it!! For those that want to try it. I have one You can try out for as long as you want. FOR FREE! That word brings music to your ears doesn't it? :)

You are mistaking me sharing my experience for a complaint since you are defending a product you spent money on.

Can you read? I just posted that I did maintenance on peoples tanks which owned one and tested their water so I saw first hand that the product did absolutely nothing. I worked at two stores while in college and was on the maintenance/install crews. I serviced a TON of tanks and saw every kind of setup there is. None of the tanks that had this product showed any of the claims in the posts and tanks which people didnt do water changes on had sick fish and nitrates in excess of 80.

Seriously before you shoot your mouth off anymore actually read my post and comprehend it. Until then your just digging yourself deeper......

Whoa....

Firstly - I haven't felt bashed (not even sure if that was implied.) This whole thread has gone a totally different route than I expected.

Secondly - I never implied the device does harm. I implied it does NOTHING. The literature about the product would lead the consumer to believe that using the device will reduce or eliminate the need for water changes, and I am telling you unequivocally that there is NO substitute for water changes, nor is this or any other device, "magical" enough to do that.

The device in question - it's a piece of PVC pipe with some little magnets stuck to it with electrical tape, another pipe over it, a label and a plastic cover over the label.

I really don't think fish/corals/inverts can benefit from the placebo effect...

Does it harm? No - UNLESS it lulls the hobbyist into thinking his/her maintenance load has gone away. So it doesn't harm directly but the false sense of security that having one of these devices supports, IS harmful, in my opinion.

But hey, what do I know?

They're fooling lots of people because that device has been selling for about 10 years now, or close to it.

PT Barnum said - there's a sucker born every minute.

There are very few products that I will openly bash, but that one is at the very TOP of my list... way ahead of API test kits, even!!! :lol:

Lighten up folks - I'm not offended, nor should anyone else be. If you feel better trying it out - go for it. I'd be interested to see what the long-term results are.

Jenn

You are mistaking me sharing my buyer beware for a complaint since you are defending a product you spent money on.

Can you read? I just posted that I did maintenance on peoples tanks which owned one and tested their water so I saw first hand that the product did absolutely nothing. I worked at two stores while in college and was on the maintenance/install crews. I serviced a TON of tanks and saw every kind of setup there is. None of the tanks that had this product showed any of the claims in the posts and tanks which people didnt do water changes on had sick fish and nitrates in excess of 80.

Seriously before you shoot your mouth off anymore actually read my post and comprehend it. Until then your just digging yourself deeper......

You maintain their tanks for them but are you there all day everyday monitoring they way they treat their tanks? Do you know their feeding habits and how often and much they feed? Do you weigh their food for them? All that can counter act the performance of this product. So unless you have it on your own tank and which you tend to personally everyday. I wouldn't open my mouth about it. Until then YOU'R digging yourself a hole.

This is stupid and I'm done with this thread. OP, my offer still stands. You can have the **** thing and try it out. Then you can come back to this thread months later and feed us your input since then you have had first hand experience with it. You can PM me for my contact info and come on by and get it.

You maintain their tanks for them but are you there all day everyday monitoring they way they treat their tanks? Do you know their feeding habits and how often and much they feed? Do you weigh their food for them? All that can counter act the performance of this product. So unless you have it on your own tank and which you tend to personally everyday. I wouldn't open my mouth about it. Until then YOU'R digging yourself a hole.

Haha, yes we actually did measure out the food when we put it in the auto feeders. We were fully aware that these clients probably over feed so we told them to let the auto feeder do the work and some of these clients we went out to see twice a week until their tanks got back into the right shape.

Nice try at turning the tables, but its gonna take a lot more than that to prove me wrong on something that was my job for years. Im not gonna argue with you about engineering......

I am not gonna comment on the previous posts - but this thing is GARBAGE!
They make the same things for airintakes for cars, fuel filters and oil lines.
Complete snakeoil unless someone can explain to me (based on physics and chemistry) what a magnetic field does to saltwater...

A waste of money any way you look at it, IMO.

Haha, yes we actually did measure out the food when we put it in the auto feeders. We were fully aware that these clients probably over feed so we told them to let the auto feeder do the work and some of these clients we went out to see twice a week until their tanks got back into the right shape.

Nice try at turning the tables, but its gonna take a lot more than that to prove me wrong on something that was my job for years. Im not gonna argue with you about engineering......

Now let me ask you if you can read since you completely missed half my post. Twice a week still doesn't mean 7 days a week. Oh oops!! I have an auto feeder too!! But **** I somehow went and fed them again!!! Oh well. I won't Happen again. Oops what was that? Hot dogs I fed them again!!

Don't let this get your blood pressure up! :)

Now let me ask you if you can read since you completely missed half my post. Twice a week still doesn't mean 7 days a week. Oh oops!! I have an auto feeder too!! But **** I somehow went and fed them again!!! Oh well. I won't Happen again. Oops what was that? Hot dogs I fed them again!!

Don't let this get your blood pressure up! :)

You are the one who has your words being censored and using multiple !!!! so it appears you are the one getting your panties in a wad friend.

Why are we still debating about my maintenance I did years ago for you to find a loop hole in my first hand experience after multiple people have come on and told you the same thing?

And to answer your question the fact we kept the food in our kits and didnt leave food at the clients house (we didnt charge them for food, it was built into our pricing) leads me to believe they weren't feeding the fish.

And now I am done indulging your attempts at finding a technicality in my experience in saying these are useless.

Haha!! Yes ma'am I'm the one using the language. I'll be the grown up and walk away before feelings get hurt. Oops (to late). :)

I had to say for koi ponds out side, they did elimate green algae in my koi pond without having to use a uv light

It harms a tank by making claims and suggestions for decreased care, which are negligent. Its like saying that a supplement that says it will raise calcium and really does nothing, isnt harming a tank. It is deceiving the aquarists into thinking their is a solution when there is not. THAT harms the tank.

Magnet will orient the iron in water, which can theoretically impede the algaes ability for uptake. For long filamentous algae in ponds, that are VERY iron dependent, it is said to work, as redpacus stated.

How can companies that make good products go out of business and these clowns are still around?


because it's easier to sell snake oil to fools than it is quality products to informed buyers...


..mainly because there are more fools..

:)

This product is absolute and utter garbage. It does absoultely NOTHING to your tank. The only thing this product does is allows the owners of the company to steal your money and make you feel like a fool for buying it.

You do not need first hand experience to exlicitly know that this product cannot work. Science will prove everything regarding this product.

On another note, I have a sweet set of muffler bearings that will improve your gas mileage. These are German engineered and use a proprietary blend of intergalactic metals to reallign the hydrogen molecules. These usually go for over $1200 each, but I will sell them to any ARC member for only $100 for the PAIR! But wait, that's not all, call now and we'll send you an extra pair for FREE (just pay shipping and handling)...

On another note, I have a sweet set of muffler bearings that will improve your gas mileage. These are German engineered and use a proprietary blend of intergalactic metals to reallign the hydrogen molecules. These usually go for over $1200 each, but I will sell them to any ARC member for only $100 for the PAIR! But wait, that's not all, call now and we'll send you an extra pair for FREE (just pay shipping and handling)...
NO WAY!?!?! how'd you get your hands on those??

NO WAY!?!?! how'd you get your hands on those??

They came with the system I bought...

they came with the system i bought...


i laffed!!!!










A lot!

As was mentioned before, they make the same things to save on fuel. The company I worked for decided to purchase these ceramic magnets and have them installed on every truck throughout the national fleet, of course without consulting thier mechanics, and thousands of dollars later, there was no change in fuel millage. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of dollars in snake oils for fuel milage that is targeted to large companies and consumers alike..

It harms a tank by making claims and suggestions for decreased care, which are negligent. Its like saying that a supplement that says it will raise calcium and really does nothing, isnt harming a tank. It is deceiving the aquarists into thinking their is a solution when there is not. THAT harms the tank.



Jeremy articulated much more bluntly, what I was trying to get across. The thing itself, "does no harm" but lulling the hobbyist into thinking the tank needs less care as a result, DOES do harm.

Jenn

How can companies that make good products go out of business and these clowns are still around? If I sold a rip-off product I'd be bankrupt before the weekend I'm sure.

It's called marketing... as many have said, you may see no benefits, you can return it for 100% money back guarantee, no questions asked.

They make their money creating a product for pennies and bank on the fact that maybe 10% of people who purchase it, will actually make the effort to return the device.

As has also been said, it creates no ill effects on the system so, even if it doesn't help, people aren't mad enough to do anything.

For some others, there is a placebo effect. I once had a tank that I went 4 months without a water change, no ill effects. Happy nem, happy corals, happy fish... then I moved and had no choice b/c I upgraded tanks.
I've never had that privilege again.