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jeep9783
05-14-2007, 12:38 PM
Got a question got a kenyan tree coral that is doing very well just wandering how to frag n what i will need to frag it?

Cameron
05-14-2007, 12:50 PM
Wait for the tenticles to fall off naturally is best from my understanding, but you can alway break one off.

Xyzpdq0121
05-14-2007, 12:52 PM
See, who needs fragging demos?!?


Yes, the BEST way is wait till it is "mature" and it will drop off fraggs on its own. you will get more frags that way in the long run. If you are just looking to keep it under control, just cut off a branch that you want.

jessezm
05-14-2007, 12:53 PM
Or slice with a very sharpe razor blade. If you apply too much pressure by pinching and pulling, some powdery-looking stuff comes out. I can't imagine they like being squeezed...

Cameron
05-14-2007, 1:20 PM
Keep in mind that "stuff" that comes out is considered to be a toxic substance to many other corals from my understanding. A little bit doesn't seem to hurt in a larger tank though.

glxtrix
05-14-2007, 1:20 PM
razor blade or scissors have worked for me.....than again mine drops babies all the time.

Kevin
05-14-2007, 5:21 PM
They do drop babies all the time. If you feel the need to cut it, make sure that you remove it from the tank, cut it clean with a razor or scalpel and rinse it in water before putting it back.

flyingarmy
05-14-2007, 5:28 PM
I have about 8-10 little Kenya Corals growing all over my tank. A good mature Kenya will drop several in a month.

Maveri9720
05-14-2007, 5:37 PM
Lol, how do you get it to STOP fragging???

I didn't want it to frag all over my tank. Luckily, the one piece that did fall off, went under my rocks, so hopefully it will die.

Now it is in my frag tank.

Frag yourself all you want now, lil buddy!

glxtrix
05-14-2007, 6:06 PM
I think I'm going to move mine into my fige and use it as a source of natural filtration.....wonder how that will work....I mean they are a filter feeding coral, hmmmm.

Nishant3789
05-15-2007, 12:17 AM
Lol, how do you get it to STOP fragging???

I didn't want it to frag all over my tank. Luckily, the one piece that did fall off, went under my rocks, so hopefully it will die.

Now it is in my frag tank.

Frag yourself all you want now, lil buddy!


hehhe tell it to go "frag itself"

Kevin
05-15-2007, 12:33 AM
I have heard of good things putting them in a fuge. Them and xenia

Nishant3789
05-15-2007, 12:37 AM
kind of as excess nutrient absorbers?

Xyzpdq0121
05-15-2007, 5:30 PM
I think I'm going to move mine into my fige and use it as a source of natural filtration.....wonder how that will work....I mean they are a filter feeding coral, hmmmm.


I have been reading ALOT on natural filters like this. (Calfo has written a good amount on the subject) Believe it or not, one of the best things for this is aiptasia. You load a "fuge" with them and they scrub the water clean of anything that floats by. Interesting stuff, I think I will try it in the future, just not with my display tank!

jeep9783
05-17-2007, 3:09 PM
ok got a question, got 33gallon reef with 10gal sump, all has been well with all
corals, now all of a sudden my xenia just schrivveled up, what is wrong or is it
just being moody

Xyzpdq0121
05-19-2007, 11:58 PM
ok got a question, got 33gallon reef with 10gal sump, all has been well with all
corals, now all of a sudden my xenia just schrivveled up, what is wrong or is it
just being moody


Xenia are a good indicator of overall water quality. Check you perameters. If all your perms check out, then my guess is you need a bit of trace elements (iodine mainely). Try a good 20% water change and some "Reef Plus" from Seachem.

Nishant3789
05-20-2007, 4:16 AM
Xenia are a good indicator of overall water quality. Check you perameters. If all your perms check out, then my guess is you need a bit of trace elements (iodine mainely). Try a good 20% water change and some "Reef Plus" from Seachem.

i agree with this to an extent, but at the same time, water quality can be kind of crappy and xenia will still thrive. in other tanks where water quality is perfect xenia doesnt do well or fades away.
nishant

Nano_Reefer92
05-23-2007, 9:27 PM
That is true that xennias will survive in bad water conditions. before i got my biocube i had a nano cube from this guy that did not change the water for six months....
he had a bigger tank so he put his atention thier and when i got it i started to do water changes and they stoped growing so much b.c before you could say a xennia ever week or two would appear so i had a xennia covered tank.

Xyzpdq0121
05-23-2007, 9:46 PM
I guess I should elaborate a bit... Xenia and PH/Iodine indicators. If one of those two things is defunct you can look at your xenia and know before anyother coral. Softis in general like dirty water.

Cameron
05-23-2007, 11:47 PM
ok got a question, got 33gallon reef with 10gal sump, all has been well with all
corals, now all of a sudden my xenia just schrivveled up, what is wrong or is it
just being moodyXenia don't like high flow and the love dirty water not just tolerate it. They are also semi-sensiitive to high lighting. That said, they can still melt down at the drop of a hat. I struggle keeping mine alive, but have found slowing the flow and hitting it with some seriously nasty water from time to time seems to keep it happy.

jeep9783
05-23-2007, 11:52 PM
amazingly i have killed 3 kenyan tree coral as soon as they hit the tank but the xenia were multiplying like rabbits, finally got a tree coral to stay alive and it is growing amazingly now the xenia is borderline kicking the buckett...amazing how that works

Dakota9
06-16-2007, 4:06 PM
My Kenya tree dropped 1 frag on its on, 1 frag assisted by myself with a turkey baster, and 1 I just cut off in the tank with an scaple. All 3 did well, and no need to glue them to rock, they attach within ours on thier own if positioned on a small rock or shell and left in fairly still water.

The Xenia might be reacting to a change in PH, due to a recent water change or additive. Xenia will be the first softie to react to a change, but chances are, it is the hardiest softie in the tank. If your Xenia was sick because of water quality, chances are your other corals would be dead. Forgot to look when this thread was started, but i'd bet the Xenia has already made a comeback. Dakota(9)

dorian965
06-16-2007, 7:48 PM
i had xenia outgrowing 3 tanks. this stuff was everywhere.then, they just started crashing. all parm. were good so i tried a different corse of action with all 3 tanks. feed 2 of the tanks. changed water in 2 every week , the other once a month. dosed iodine in 2. all crashed. i have none anymore. i also ran carbon in 2.

this is the only type of coral i have ever lost , aside from a monti that wasnt getting enough light and flow and was overtaken by algae growth.

its a really sensative coral. you hear alot about iodine but i know that temperature changes will wip it out quick. jm2c

p.s.- i had elongata(spelling??) version