View Full Version : New aquavitro Product: salinity


Seachem
07-20-2009, 11:28 AM
We will be releasing our new product in the aquavitro line, salinity, very shortly. This is a complete and concentrated salt mix that is manufactured at Seachem's facility. In addition, we will be providing batch-specific guaranteed analyses for this salt!

For more information about this product, please visit our site:

http://www.aquavitro.com/

JennM
07-20-2009, 12:18 PM
Can't wait! People are already asking about it.

Cheers,
Jenn

Dakota9
07-20-2009, 12:22 PM
Wish we could get a pic of the product packaging!

JennM
07-20-2009, 12:23 PM
It's a bucket :)

jt955
07-20-2009, 12:26 PM
It's a bucket :)
home depot style

Seachem
07-20-2009, 12:33 PM
Unfortunately, we do not have any images available yet.

ares
07-20-2009, 12:55 PM
curious to try it out!

do you have an expected MSRP yet?

Skriz
07-20-2009, 1:29 PM
How about this?



http://www.reefbuilders.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/salinity-bucket-art.jpg

Seachem
07-20-2009, 1:35 PM
Yeah. Sorry about that. We do have an image. You can view it here:

http://www.reefbuilders.com/2009/07/15/seachems-salinity-salt-aqua-vitro-photo/

As far as pricing, we are still working out the numbers. We hope to keep it within range of our Reef Salt cost. Possibly a little higher, but close to it.

DrNecropolis
07-20-2009, 1:39 PM
thats what I have heard.. within $10-$15 of reefsalt... Looking forward to trying some out!

Seachem
07-20-2009, 3:18 PM
Glad to hear! We think you will be pleased with it.

Dakota9
07-20-2009, 4:16 PM
It's a bucket :)


I'm in the packaging business, in fact Seachem purchases some of their packaging from the company I work for. I tend to take note of packaging details, and noticed that Aquavitro product line offers a fresh appealling look to tank additives. I was curious to which pail they would use.


LOL, from the picture, I can tell which company manufactured that pail.

Seachem
07-20-2009, 4:39 PM
Thanks for the compliments on the aqua vitro packaging!

ares
07-20-2009, 5:03 PM
best buckets I have used are actually the ones from BRS(4 tabs). the ones from kent and such are the worse(lots of little tabs you have to pry up). existing seachem buckets are somewhere in the middle :) I dont seal them all the way because I dont want to have to hammer them open all the time. they seem to stay humid proof enough though even only partially closed, so its ok.

never underestimate the preferences of a good bucket though. I seriously hate opening a bucket of kent salt...

ericmcj31
07-20-2009, 6:23 PM
what is the advantage of this product over your Seachem's "reef salt' product???

Dakota9
07-20-2009, 6:35 PM
best buckets I have used are actually the ones from BRS(4 tabs). the ones from kent and such are the worse(lots of little tabs you have to pry up). existing seachem buckets are somewhere in the middle :) I dont seal them all the way because I dont want to have to hammer them open all the time. they seem to stay humid proof enough though even only partially closed, so its ok.

never underestimate the preferences of a good bucket though. I seriously hate opening a bucket of kent salt...


It appears the pail above offers a screw cap, atleast the cover appears to be that manufacturer's Screw-On Cover...... Alil more expensive, but so worth it.

ANOTHER PLUS!!!!!!!!!

Skriz
07-20-2009, 9:05 PM
..the ones from kent and such are the worse(lots of little tabs you have to pry up)...

never underestimate the preferences of a good bucket though. I seriously hate opening a bucket of kent salt...

Ahh, there's your problem: kent salt! I hate opening that bucket it; there's garbage inside! Only Seachem for me! :)

ares
07-20-2009, 9:07 PM
heh, I dont use the salt, actually had a bucket thats got to be 5 years old. ran out of salt on a water change and pulled it out of the deep freeze. my fingers bled trying to open it. pry 1 little tab open, then go to the next and the 1st one snaps back shut. SON OF A!!!!!!!

JennM
07-20-2009, 11:56 PM
That's what a screw driver is for ... Kent buckets.

ericmcj31
07-21-2009, 5:53 AM
what is the advantage of this product over your Seachem's "reef salt' product???

???

Seachem
07-21-2009, 9:38 AM
The big difference between Reef Salt and AV Salinity is that Salinity will have a lab tested guaranteed analysis with every batch produced! This is unlike any other salt manufactured today! Not only that, but it will be the most concentrated salt on the market and is manufactured in house at the Seachem facility! :thumbs:

thewarbrd
07-21-2009, 11:04 PM
How short is 'very shortly'? Was planning on a new bucket of salt this weekend, but can buy a smaller quantity to tide me over if it'll be within the next month, I definitely want to try salinity :)

Dakota9
07-22-2009, 1:15 AM
Sounds like it's a few months out from debuting on the shelf

Smoothie
07-22-2009, 1:18 AM
The big difference between Reef Salt and AV Salinity is that Salinity will have a lab tested guaranteed analysis with every batch produced! This is unlike any other salt manufactured today! Not only that, but it will be the most concentrated salt on the market and is manufactured in house at the Seachem facility! :thumbs:
Nice! Sounds like someone wants to come to one of the next meetings and bring a sample to show off. Nudge nudge wink wink

cr500_af
07-22-2009, 1:28 AM
Does "concentrated" mean that we will make more gallons per container we buy, or that we'll make the same amount but the container won't be as large?

Also, I've been told (and it has held true in my tank) that Reef Salt has good CA and Mag numbers but is really low on alkalinity... mine (with no dosing of anything) is 5.9.
Will Salinity be addressing that?

JennM
07-22-2009, 6:03 AM
How short is 'very shortly'? Was planning on a new bucket of salt this weekend, but can buy a smaller quantity to tide me over if it'll be within the next month, I definitely want to try salinity :)

When I was at Seachem 10 days ago, I was told ~6 weeks. Allow about 2 more for it to get to distributors and then to retailers - I'm estimating about another 4 weeks or so.

Jenn

Seachem
07-22-2009, 11:21 AM
That's a good estimate, Jenn. Thanks for the input. By more concentrated, that means the same size salt bucket will make more saltwater :)

ares
07-22-2009, 11:28 AM
200g buckets? :p or 160g buckets, but at 1.025 instead of 1.020?

Seachem
07-22-2009, 11:35 AM
Still working out the details on the official numbers, but we will definitely let you know as soon as we are certain.

JennM
07-22-2009, 12:22 PM
Of course I'll defer to Seachem on the particulars... but one thing we did discuss, was that a "200-gallon" box of Instant Ocean actually makes less saltwater at a specific gravity of 1.023 (for example)... I believe the directions on the IO bulk box specify that it makes 200 gallons at 1.020 and most reefkeepers keep their specific gravity higher than that, so the "200-gallon box" doesn't really give a reefkeeper 200 gallons of ASW. This is something that the Aquavitro salt will be addressing - a "real" number of gallons at a more typical reef specific gravity.

Jenn

Seachem
07-22-2009, 2:14 PM
Yes. Our plan is to have the label say "mixes X amount of water at X specific gravity".

Delloman
07-23-2009, 12:07 AM
sweet looking forword to this

Seachem
07-23-2009, 9:09 AM
As are we!

dorknight
12-09-2009, 12:56 AM
I hate to bring up a dead topic, but talking about salt in the other thread got me thinking. I use the Seachem Reef Salt, but I remembered hearing about this a while back. Is it available, cancelled, priced, etc...any updated information that I may have missed?

DrNecropolis
12-09-2009, 12:57 AM
Kinda like bigfoot at this point (no not jeremy) we have all seen it.. Wondering if its real though.. LoL

dorknight
12-09-2009, 1:11 AM
That's good to know, although it's probably all hanging out with Nessie, she can probably use a little mythical salt. lol

Smoothie
12-09-2009, 1:37 AM
They had alot of it on display at their MACNA booth this year.

DrNecropolis
12-09-2009, 1:43 AM
I also believe I remember hearing Jake Adams say they were going to have some as raffle prizes at IMAC also..

JennM
12-09-2009, 7:55 AM
I was speaking with a rep at Seachem yesterday - they said, "by the end of the year".

It's coming - that's for sure but it's taking longer than anticipated.

I'll receive advance info when it does go to market so I'll post when I have more info.

Jenn

Treyeleven
12-09-2009, 9:38 AM
IMAC west which is held July 30 2010 is claiming this:

Seachem has a brand new product that they will be introducing at IMAC West. This will be the first time it will be seen anywhere. Seachem is releasing at IMAC West their new aquavitro salt called "salinity". We are going to raffle 12 buckets off. This will be done via coupon and Seachem will send the salt directly from Seachem to the winners - no need to worry about carrying it home on a plane! The salt is completely different from anything else out there. It is the first concentrated salt for one. These will be the first consumers to give it a try out side of Seachems testing realm!!!

Dakota9
12-09-2009, 10:03 AM
I was speaking with a rep at Seachem yesterday - they said, "by the end of the year".

It's coming - that's for sure but it's taking longer than anticipated.

I'll receive advance info when it does go to market so I'll post when I have more info.

Jenn


Just got off the phone with Seachem (business call). It should be out by the end of the month.

I'd say it's confirmed, now let's see if we can afford it! LOL

Seachem
12-09-2009, 10:16 AM
Hey everyone,
Salinity will be out around the end of the year. A lot goes into being able to produce a salt that is quality, but also can be offered at an affordable price. The chemical composition of the salt was determined a long time ago and has been being tested for quite a while here. It is mainly the cost factors and packaging that has held up the release. Rest assured though, it is not mythical and you will be able to get your hands on it soon enough :) Thanks for all of your support!

Dakota9
12-09-2009, 10:18 AM
We lookn forward to it's debut! Thank you for taking the time to address the matter here!

Seachem
12-09-2009, 10:33 AM
You very welcome :)

Oil_Fan
12-12-2009, 5:03 PM
Personally I can't wait to try this stuff out!!

Son of Adam
12-12-2009, 5:16 PM
Yep me too!

Someone buy the stuff in my for sale thread so I can do a water change with this stuff!

jcusmarine
12-12-2009, 5:50 PM
Ditto. I have been using Reef Salt for a couple of buckets and my next will be the new Salinity....should be great.

Miami Dolfan
12-12-2009, 5:56 PM
Do I hear a Group Buy?? I'll make the drive to Madison and load my trailer!!
(No, Really...)

Treyeleven
12-12-2009, 6:57 PM
Do I hear a Group Buy?? I'll make the drive to Madison and load my trailer!!
(No, Really...)

You probably need a trailer of salt anyway for your big tank. Sounds like a plan...

Amici
12-12-2009, 8:44 PM
Do I hear a Group Buy?? I'll make the drive to Madison and load my trailer!!
(No, Really...)

Were actually working on something, however it would need to run through a sponsor store since Seachem does not sell direct.

Miami Dolfan
12-13-2009, 12:51 AM
New concept........Seachem Direct !!!

Amici
12-13-2009, 1:28 AM
New concept........Seachem Direct !!!

Haha well to be fair then it would be wholesale to the public and they would no longer be a sponsor! :lol2:

Smoothie
12-13-2009, 2:20 AM
Let's find a store that has the space for a pallet and let's do this thing.

JennM
12-13-2009, 4:58 AM
I'm Platinum certified with Seachem, so I will have "first crack" at this, along with other certified retailers. I've been given a few bits of info about its release.

I will likely do a "preorder special" when it's released.

Jenn

phil47952
12-13-2009, 7:20 AM
I'm Platinum certified with Seachem, so I will have "first crack" at this, along with other certified retailers. I've been given a few bits of info about its release.

I will likely do a "preorder special" when it's released.

Jenn


I'll be one to try this new salt mix also...

Phil :yes:

rostato
12-13-2009, 10:50 AM
OOOO count me in. I new there was a reason I forgot to buy another bucket of reef salt when I was in ATL...

Scrilla
12-13-2009, 11:12 AM
I'm Platinum certified with Seachem, so I will have "first crack" at this, along with other certified retailers. I've been given a few bits of info about its release.

I will likely do a "preorder special" when it's released.

Jenn



So when is the release date? I'm down to enough salt for a water change or two and would like to try this stuff out. Ide hate to buy another bucket then this thing is released shortly after.

JennM
12-13-2009, 11:13 AM
Seachem posted above, "around the end of the year". I don't have a firm date. I know it's a bit later than originally anticipated - so I'm not going to guess until I have an order form in my hand :)

Jenn

Scrilla
12-13-2009, 12:26 PM
Seachem posted above, "around the end of the year". I don't have a firm date. I know it's a bit later than originally anticipated - so I'm not going to guess until I have an order form in my hand :)

Jenn



Two Weeks And Counting... :unsure:

Scrilla
12-28-2009, 11:47 PM
Any Updates?

blu_devl_06
12-29-2009, 12:02 AM
Stab in the dark, maybe next month, AGAIN!!!!

blu_devl_06
12-29-2009, 12:35 AM
Sweet!! I need some more aquavitro!!

Seachem
12-29-2009, 9:45 AM
It is right around the corner! We are shooting for the 2nd or 3rd week in January. We certainly appreciate all of your patience in this matter. The wait is going to be well worth it, because when it is released I am sure that you all will be blown away with the results! Thank you all so much for your support!!!

rostato
12-29-2009, 9:51 AM
Good, I am sick of my mag gettign thrown outta whack everytime I do a water change with your reef salt...

ares
12-29-2009, 10:23 AM
gonna have to bit the bullet and buy some more reef salt :( been like 3 weeks since my last water change, another 3 would not be good I dont think. hurry!

Seachem
12-29-2009, 10:52 AM
You should be getting good magnesium levels off of the Reef Salt, as well. What range do your levels seem to be within?

weaglereefer
12-29-2009, 12:57 PM
I find my Mg levels to be about 1100 after mixing water for a w/c for 24 hours. I add supplements to get it to about 1400 using Reef Salt. That was the average for the last 2 buckets, and just mixed up my first batch with a new bucket and got the same results. Testing with an Elos test kit that is less than a year old.

mojo
12-29-2009, 1:03 PM
Looks to be available in 850L and 4000L(bulk) sizes. I will say that pricing looks pretty fair.

Oooh... 850L is just a normal bucket (225g), but 4000L (1056g) would be awesome. What kind of container does that come in? Box/bag perhaps? :up:

Scrilla
12-29-2009, 1:36 PM
gonna have to bit the bullet and buy some more reef salt :( been like 3 weeks since my last water change, another 3 would not be good i dont think. Hurry!




x2...

Scrilla
12-29-2009, 1:49 PM
do it!!!!

AquariumsUnlimited
12-29-2009, 1:53 PM
Oooh... 850L is just a normal bucket (225g), but 4000L (1056g) would be awesome. What kind of container does that come in? Box/bag perhaps? :up:

I assume the 4000L size (appr. 1050 gallons) would come on a pallet in a drum, same as the 1000 gallon drums of Seachem salt.

ares
12-29-2009, 2:04 PM
1000g drum... thats... tempting lol

whats that weigh?

Smoothie
12-29-2009, 2:20 PM
So anyone else smellin a guinea pig group buy?

Acroholic
12-29-2009, 2:31 PM
I wonder if the 4000L size is for Store use?

atreyu917
12-29-2009, 2:49 PM
So anyone else smellin a guinea pig group buy?

I'd be in

Smoothie
12-29-2009, 2:51 PM
I wonder if the 4000L size is for Store use?
Meaning less amount of elements or shear bulk? I doubt it's limited to only stores based on the size. Money is money

AquariumsUnlimited
12-29-2009, 2:57 PM
The large bulk sizes are often used by stores, maintenance companies and scientific/educational institutions but I do not believe it is store use only. Seachem makes all their products in 20kg and 20L bulk sizes for anyone who actually needs that much.

ares
12-29-2009, 3:03 PM
out of curiosity, can you post a comparison to their reef salt? curious how retail prices compare for the 2. Ive seen seachem reef salt sold from 45$ to 80$, so when you say the aquavitro is 70, Im not sure where that really sits :/

weaglereefer
12-29-2009, 3:14 PM
So does the 225 gallon bucket make 225 gallons at 1.021 or 1.026?

weaglereefer
12-29-2009, 3:17 PM
Oh, and +1 to the group buy!

AquariumsUnlimited
12-29-2009, 3:20 PM
Looks like Salinity is finally on the AquaVitro website today.

http://www.aquavitro.com/Products/salinity.html

ares
12-29-2009, 4:17 PM
ah I get it, larger volume of salt, explains it. thats very reasonable then.

so does the 4000L drum come in a plastic barrel? a whole new container to collect!

blu_devl_06
12-29-2009, 6:52 PM
Looks like Salinity is finally on the AquaVitro website today.

http://www.aquavitro.com/Products/salinity.html


Yes, that's good news, getting closer to release date....:up:

JennM
12-29-2009, 7:38 PM
I'm sure it will go on special from time to time, that's how many of us (myself included) can offer the reef salt and other brands at substantially less than cost, but the frequency and discount offered will remain to be seen.

Jenn

Acroholic
12-29-2009, 8:36 PM
Meaning less amount of elements or shear bulk? I doubt it's limited to only stores based on the size. Money is money

I'm not sure what you mean by the above, but I was referring to the physical size of the salt amount. 4000 L of salt mix has to equal 300 or more pounds.

JennM
12-29-2009, 8:37 PM
You're right, Dave, it weighs about 300 lbs. I haven't seen the barrel, but I spoke with someone at Seachem about them a week or so ago. Definitely a challenge to move.

Jenn

Acroholic
12-29-2009, 10:02 PM
If you are not an ARC Sponsor, please refrain from posting your reef related business product pricing structure. Any further postings of this type will be considered Spam and the poster will be banned.
Dave

ares
12-30-2009, 9:35 AM
I presumed 2000L meant the volume of water it would make mixed, calculated out, that came to approx 5 of our normal buckets worth of salt. should put it somewhere around 250lbs. youd certainly need a hand truck for that.

Seachem
12-30-2009, 11:15 AM
So does the 225 gallon bucket make 225 gallons at 1.021 or 1.026?

The bucket will mix 225 gallons of saltwater at 35ppt (which converts to about 1.026). If running a lower salinity, you will get more make-up water than this.

Seachem
12-30-2009, 11:17 AM
The 4000L drums are not solely for store use, but I imagine that stores will be more likely to buy something of this caliber. They weigh about 300 lbs each and do come is a plastic drum.

Smoothie
12-30-2009, 11:22 AM
Nice!

weaglereefer
12-30-2009, 11:58 AM
Figure it costs $.35 a gallon to make Reef Salt at 1.026, as long as it costs less than $80 a bucket for the Aquavitro, it will be a better deal.

Acroholic
12-30-2009, 12:22 PM
I'd definitely be up to buy a drum, but moving it would be the issue!!!
Dave

Dakota9
12-31-2009, 9:51 AM
Just found out from my contact with Seachem that Salinity will only be offered in the 5 gallon pail and the large drum size. Seachem has no current plans to offer smaller package sizes of this product.

If some of us with with smaller systems are wanting to try it, we might consider a group of us purchasing a pail and dividing it up. I know personally I only use 2 1/2 cups a salt every two weeks, and just don't want to have to invest in, and then store, a whole pail of salt for a year or more.

If anyone would be interested in this idea once Salinity debuts (hopefully) in January, please let me know.

JennM
01-01-2010, 6:09 PM
Salinity is arriving soon!

See my sponsor forum for details here: http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forums/showthread.php?p=439716#post439716

Jenn

phoenix20
01-06-2010, 12:04 PM
Reefbuilders posted today that its still another 3-5 weeks out?

http://reefbuilders.com/2010/01/06/seachems-aquavitro-salinity-salt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reefbuilders%2FCTjt+%28Reef+B uilders%29

Jenn, are you for sure that you can sell this starting on the 10th? I'm holding off on doing a water change because I dont want to buy another bucket of Reef Crystals and end up with the brown sludge again!

Jenn, if its for sure on the 10th, can I can I call you with a CC number and have a bucket shipped?

Thanks!

JennM
01-06-2010, 12:12 PM
I'll contact my folks at Seachem. My local distributor is offering it in their current sale flyer, and I received order info from Seachem last week.

I'm sure Seachem will see this update to this thread too, so hopefully they will chime in.

I was told that our local distributor will be the first to receive it, but I'll let you know what I learn.

Jenn

Seachem
01-06-2010, 12:16 PM
They are probably using the 3-5 weeks reference based on when it will be seen, on average, in stores across the country. If the product starts shipping from us next week, it then takes time for the distributors to receive it. Then the store orders it and it takes time for it to ship to them as well. You guys are lucky because you are in our backyard and will likely get it much sooner than that.

JennM
01-06-2010, 12:18 PM
Thanks for the speedy reply! :) We're eager to receive our order!

Jenn