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James S.
07-06-2008, 6:37 PM
Well, I figured this would be a good time as any to start my very own build thread. I have been messing around with Saltwater fish tanks for nearly three years now and have let my addiction lead me to where I am today. BROKE!!!

This tank has been in the works for nearly two years now. It has been extremely aggravating at times. I have spent countless Man hours researching,laboring,changing my mind,etc..........but have enjoyed much of it.

My main goal is to get this system running by 2009. It will be filled with primarily Softies,LPS,Clams, and maybe a few SPS scattered around. I plan on having a large variety of Tangs, Anthias, Clownfish, Triggers,etc.....

The Tank : 600 gallon Acrylic 96" x 48" x 30" . Has a single external overflow and two external built Tunze Waveboxes on one end of tank.

The Sump: 240 Gallon Acrylic

Refugium: 106 gallon cube tank. 32" x 32"x 24"

Flow: 2- Tunze Waveboxes w/ 7091 controller and 4- Tunze 6101's w/ 7095 controller. Return Pump is a Sequence Dart.

Lighting: 4-Large LumenBright Reflectors with 175 Watt Icecap ballasts and Iwasaki 15k lamps. Actinics will be 4-8 54 watt T5's running off HO ballasts. Will be a mixture of Aqua Blue's, Aqua Blue+, Fiji Purples,etc....

Skimmer: Dart Needlewheel with a Alita 40 air pump injection. Possibly 50mg Ozone at some point.

UV: 120 watt ---Aqua UV 3x40w Sterilizer.

Top-off : 2- 30 gallon water storage containers.
Saltwater mixing Station: Still in the works............probably be 2- 100 gallon rubbermaid's or 1- 200 gallon reservoir.

James S.
07-06-2008, 6:43 PM
Stand was built using 6x6 posts and 2x10's. This thing is not going anywhere.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04569.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04570.jpg

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http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04580.jpg

James S.
07-06-2008, 6:45 PM
Several months Later...... Began building Soffitt's etc.......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04904.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04904.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04902.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04903.jpg

blfuller123
07-06-2008, 6:46 PM
Its about time. Just kidding James. Look forward to seeing it.

James S.
07-06-2008, 6:50 PM
There was ALOT of time spent figuring out the electrical, plumbing, ventilation, insulation, AC, etc............It amazes me to this day how much is involved with a system this large.

Heres some pics of construction as of today.......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1117.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1118.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1119.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1120.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1116.jpg

James S.
07-06-2008, 8:29 PM
Here are some Equipment Pics.....

The Tank....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/600gallon.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/600gallontank.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1127.jpg


The Skimmer + Air pump.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/Dartskimmer4.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04930.jpg

James S.
07-06-2008, 8:32 PM
The FLOW.........

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04985.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04941.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/DSC04924.jpg

James S.
07-06-2008, 8:35 PM
The Refugium.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1125.jpg

The UV....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1121.jpg

Top-off Containers.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1124.jpg

The Sump......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1126.jpg


2- RO/DI Filters......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1122.jpg http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1123.jpg

James S.
07-06-2008, 8:38 PM
Double Sink :) This is going to be real nice!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1132.jpg

Lifereef Fluid reactors.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1135.jpg

Iwaki Pumps....one for saltwater mixing and one for skimmer washdown system.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1136.jpg

and Fans for evaporative cooling and to keep lighting cool......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1134.jpg

Steve
07-06-2008, 8:40 PM
Jeez James. I immediately noticed the beast outside the window. It looks like you're going all out on this one. Just don't change your mind. That would be an expensive change. Looks good though. You're gonna be the one I call when I need something my dad can't do.

James S.
07-06-2008, 9:06 PM
No changing my mind now Steve! I have run out of ideas and $$$. :)

James S.
07-06-2008, 9:10 PM
And a couple pics of my thrown together mix matched Ghetto system that is running now.......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1130.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1131.jpg

Bleedingthought
07-06-2008, 11:25 PM
Yes, finally! Good to see that things are moving along. Looking forward to future updates!!! :)

Skriz
07-07-2008, 9:03 AM
looks good James!

jmaneyapanda
07-07-2008, 9:18 AM
There was ALOT of time spent figuring out the electrical, plumbing, ventilation, insulation, AC, etc............It amazes me to this day how much is involved with a system this large.


But, not a lot of time measuring doors!!:lol2:

You know where I am when its time to move stuff. ****, I'm jealous.

christopherjay
07-07-2008, 12:52 PM
nice

James S.
07-07-2008, 8:55 PM
But, not a lot of time measuring doors!!:lol2:

You know where I am when its time to move stuff. ****, I'm jealous.

That was one of those aggravating Days. :doh:

mojo
07-08-2008, 11:22 AM
Tagging along. Keep up the good progress....

There was ALOT of time spent figuring out the electrical, plumbing, ventilation, insulation, AC, etc............It amazes me to this day how much is involved with a system this large.

It ain't over yet... :)

jmaneyapanda
07-08-2008, 11:57 AM
That was one of those aggravating Days. :doh:

ah, it all worked out. Once you get water in the tank and the waveboxes in, make a movie (or invite me over). I wanna watch that.

Budsreef
07-08-2008, 2:29 PM
Wow! I've been overwhemed just trying to get my 120G up and running, I can't imagine what you have gone thru so far and how much more to come. Looks great so far!

James S.
07-09-2008, 9:41 AM
Thanks everyone. I got some more sheet rock done yesterday. Hoping to have all the sheet rock hung this week, then on to mudding the walls.
For the record......I HATE SHEET ROCK MUD! I may actually pay someone to do this.

James S.
07-09-2008, 9:45 AM
ah, it all worked out. Once you get water in the tank and the waveboxes in, make a movie (or invite me over). I wanna watch that.

Will do.

James S.
07-09-2008, 9:55 AM
Got some more goodies for the tank yesterday. LumenBright Reflectors :)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1138.jpg

mojo
07-09-2008, 1:59 PM
Very cool. Are those the LB mini's or the full sized?

ZDaytonaRoadster
07-09-2008, 3:10 PM
holy cow, looks like a huge..but fun..build

Steve
07-09-2008, 3:51 PM
I can't even imagine the money you're spending on this. You sell off your kidneys and your newborn yet?

savingnemo754
07-09-2008, 4:57 PM
This thing looks great. What are you going to you for actinic? I cant wait to see how this thing turns out.

stickx911
07-09-2008, 5:33 PM
I cannot imagine a 90 gallon water change every week...

James S.
07-09-2008, 9:56 PM
Very cool. Are those the LB mini's or the full sized?

The full sized ones.

James S.
07-09-2008, 9:57 PM
I cannot imagine a 90 gallon water change every week...

Me neither,lol. I will probably change 100 gallons at a time every 3-4 months.

James S.
07-09-2008, 9:59 PM
This thing looks great. What are you going to you for actinic? I cant wait to see how this thing turns out.

Im going to run 8-54 watt T5's running Sylvania HO ballasts. It will be a mix of Aqua blues, Aqua blue+, Fiji Purples,and whatever else I find i like.

James S.
07-09-2008, 9:59 PM
I can't even imagine the money you're spending on this. You sell off your kidneys and your newborn yet?

I stole your car and sold it :) Have you looked outside lately,LOL.

Skriz
07-09-2008, 10:00 PM
Beauty of a large system is you can get away with less frequent water changes! I hope you have those planned out James; I didn't and boy do I pay for it :(

James S.
07-09-2008, 10:06 PM
Ok on to some more progress today......More Insulation installed,sink rough-in done,plumbing for tank return and topoff and sheet rock. I must say hanging sheet rock on a ceiling by yourself sucks!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1139.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1140.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1141.jpg

James S.
07-09-2008, 10:07 PM
More pics......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1168.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1169.jpg

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James S.
07-09-2008, 10:10 PM
Beauty of a large system is you can get away with less frequent water changes! I hope you have those planned out James; I didn't and boy do I pay for it :(

Yes Sir, all I have to do is flip a switch and turn a valve or two and the new saltwater starts flowing into the sump. That was one of my main concerns with this system. Making water changes and top-off as EASY as possible.

I HATE CARRYING AND LIFTING BUCKETS OF SALTWATER ACROSS THE HOUSE AND INTO THE TANK. I VOW TO NEVER DO THAT AGAIN! :)

mojo
07-09-2008, 10:13 PM
Very nice and professional looking!

Crew
07-10-2008, 2:09 AM
i dont know where ball ground is but ill help you for $10 an hour, I could use the extra cash, I have to pay for classes soon

mojo
07-10-2008, 2:10 AM
Wow- do you do tile work as well?! :)

tebriel
07-10-2008, 8:08 AM
i dont know where ball ground is but ill help you for $10 an hour, I could use the extra cash, I have to pay for classes soon

Ball ground is about 40 min from marietta says google maps. it's up 575

James S.
07-11-2008, 2:42 AM
i dont know where ball ground is but ill help you for $10 an hour, I could use the extra cash, I have to pay for classes soon


Thanks for the offer but this room is pretty small. any more people in it and we'd be rubbing elbow's. If you are a master at sheet rock finishing then we can talk, lol.

ZDaytonaRoadster
07-11-2008, 6:39 PM
I cannot imagine a 90 gallon water change every week...

yeah, that would be insane.

James S.
07-15-2008, 11:36 AM
Sheet rock is officially done. Atleast my part of it. I have a Contractor starting the taping and mudding today. Should be ready for paint by this weekend I hope.

Here some updated pics.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1204.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1205.jpg

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http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1208.jpg

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http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1209.jpg

glxtrix
07-15-2008, 11:45 AM
Awesome man, looking good.

blfuller123
07-15-2008, 11:46 AM
Nice work James!

James S.
07-16-2008, 9:31 PM
Well it has been a LONG Day for me today.I had my 8 hour Master Electrical Exam ........but I did get to come home to drink a beer and check out the progress on my fish room. The Finisher's were here today and got all the mudding and taping done. They will start Skim coating and sanding tomorrow and hopefully be done by Friday. Money well spent I must say! This would have taken me Fooorrrrever. Heres some Pics from today...........

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1213.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1211.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1212.jpg

Rockdog
07-16-2008, 10:06 PM
Hope you get you license!! I got mine about 8 years ago....


OH and the fishroom looks great!! I am jealous!!

Jason

James S.
07-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Thanks Jason. It was my first time taking it and I was NOT prepared. Did not have alot of time to study,but I'm hoping I passed, I did miss a few real dumb questions though from trying to hurry. Like this one.......How many years does it take to become eligible to take the examination????? Duhhh I f-ed up and put 5 years. Idiot! I'm hoping that was one of the 22 Questions that did not count.

jade76
07-16-2008, 11:37 PM
looking mighty nice.

blfuller123
07-16-2008, 11:45 PM
Money well spent. I hate doing drywall work too. Looks good!

Rockdog
07-17-2008, 1:04 AM
I took the test after an apprentice ship with the IEC. There was 4 years of school and I took the test B4 I finished the school... I guess I was pretty prepaired... my total test time for both haves was just a little over 4 hours.

Hope it goes well for you. What type of work are you doing?

Jason

James S.
07-17-2008, 8:30 AM
Well I waited 6 years after my Apprenticeship to take the test. Big Mistake. I learned alot after that but forgot a hell of alot as well.

I do Commercial work for a company in Alpharetta called Rogers Electric. I do alot of Fast track work which consists of small jobs that are in the 5k-50k range. I spend alot of times on Home Depot's,Lowes,etc.....big Retail stuff.

blfuller123
07-22-2008, 8:18 PM
Lets see more progress James, I am starting to catch up with you.

James S.
07-22-2008, 11:47 PM
Ive been painting and painting and painting...........I'll post some pics once I get some color on the walls. Right now all the Primer is done and the ceilings have been painted with one coat of Latex Acrylic. Going to try and get the wall color started tomorrow, and the second coat on the ceilings. Alot of work :(

James S.
07-23-2008, 12:24 PM
Well here is some Painting updates.....I plan on starting the paint on the walls today sometime.

Here is what I'm using for the Paint:

Primer.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1255.jpg

The Ceiling Paint......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1253.jpg

The Stand and the floors.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1254.jpg

Here is some progress.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1256.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1258.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1257.jpg

Bleedingthought
07-23-2008, 12:27 PM
Looking real good, James!

James S.
07-23-2008, 12:29 PM
I changed my lighting Plan from MH + T5 Actinics to just T5's. I decided I wanted something streamline that was easy to install and ready to go out of the box. The MH Reflectors and the Retro T5's was going to be a big project building and I decided enough was enough.

Got these today from the Fed-Ex Man..... :)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1249.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1248.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1251.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1252.jpg

jade76
07-23-2008, 12:31 PM
dag blasit james! are you gonna charge admission to see this tank or what?!!

James S.
07-23-2008, 12:32 PM
Got a shipment of Lamps from ReefGeek.com ( I'm very Impressed with there shipping). Got to me safe and sound very quick.

It's a mixture of ATI Aqua Blue, ATI Blue + , ATI Pro Color, UVL Aquasun, KZ Fiji Purple, and Sfiligoi Pure Actinic

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1261.jpg

James S.
07-23-2008, 12:38 PM
On to the good stuff....... The results of $1k in lighting.....

Here is the order of Lamps I'm going to try by recommendation of Grim Reefer( The T5 GURU) on Reef Central. With a mix of my own taste.......

......Front of tank......

1. ATI Aquablue
2. Sfiligoi Pure Actinic
3. KZ Fiji Purple
4. UVL Aquasun
5. ATI Pro Color
6. UVL Aquasun
7. ATI Blue +
8. ATI Aqua Blue

....Back of Tank...


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1262.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1270.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1266.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1269.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1268.jpg

James S.
07-23-2008, 12:39 PM
Ohhh and the Fed Ex Man loved me today......on top of the lights he had 15 - 40lb bags of Aragonite sand for my tank.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1247.jpg

James S.
07-23-2008, 12:42 PM
dag blasit james! are you gonna charge admission to see this tank or what?!!

How much is it worth to you? LOL The Admission fee will be the gas to come out this way. I don't live real close to anybody. :)

Budsreef
07-23-2008, 12:44 PM
Wow! That is going to be one awesome setup! Nice work on everything so far!

James S.
07-23-2008, 1:02 PM
Hers a another pic of the lights side by side. Overall Impression of these Tek lights are.
1. Nice Sleek exterior. Only 2.5" tall
2. Light weight, decent build quality. Paint finish is Impressive.
3. Acrylic shields are a bit flimsy. Interesting to see how they do with some heat on them. No bracket to hold the center of the acrylic shield in place on the end of fixture. So I'ts is only held in place along the sides.
4. Bright! Warning.....Don't look directly into the light. My eyes were killing me for about five minutes afterwards.
5. Lamps were tough to install. Not much room between the reflectors to get your fingers in there to twist the lamps.
6. Reflectors are NOT Individual reflectors as advertised. They are a one piece 8 lamp reflector. They lead you to believe that each reflector is seperate by the advertising. But the light is still extremely bright so no real complaints there.

These lights are exactly what I was looking for. They are probably not as nice as the other lights i was looking at. (ATI PowerModule and the Aquatinics) But for half the cost I'm pleased. I am looking forward to see how they look on my tank with a 48" depth. Hopefully they will give enough spread to not require additional lighting. I think with proper Aquascaping these should do just fine. :)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1259.jpg

johnr2604
07-23-2008, 1:03 PM
Wow, great job so far!!!

Budsreef
07-23-2008, 4:01 PM
Hers a another pic of the lights side by side. Overall Impression of these Tek lights are.
1. Nice Sleek exterior. Only 2.5" tall
2. Light weight, decent build quality. Paint finish is Impressive.
3. Acrylic shields are a bit flimsy. Interesting to see how they do with some heat on them. No bracket to hold the center of the acrylic shield in place on the end of fixture. So I'ts is only held in place along the sides.
4. Bright! Warning.....Don't look directly into the light. My eyes were killing me for about five minutes afterwards.
5. Lamps were tough to install. Not much room between the reflectors to get your fingers in there to twist the lamps.
6. Reflectors are NOT Individual reflectors as advertised. They are a one piece 8 lamp reflector. They lead you to believe that each reflector is seperate by the advertising. But the light is still extremely bright so no real complaints there.

These lights are exactly what I was looking for. They are probably not as nice as the other lights i was looking at. (ATI PowerModule and the Aquatinics) But for half the cost I'm pleased. I am looking forward to see how they look on my tank with a 48" depth. Hopefully they will give enough spread to not require additional lighting. I think with proper Aquascaping these should do just fine. :)


James, are you going to hang them or did you get the feet for them? What is the actual width of the lights not counting the fixture? Do they have fans? I am really struggling with a canopy design for my T5 retros that still gives me access to the tank for feeding or maintenance and was thinking about going to a fixture. Thanks for any feedback.

James S.
07-23-2008, 11:55 PM
I bought the Hanging Kits for them. I was not sure if the feet would work with the cutouts on my tank. The inside diameter of the light is 14 3/4" and they are 47 1/4" long. The outside Diameter of the fixture just in case you need it is 19 1/2". No there are no fans included. That is the one downside of this fixture but I do plan on using some fans to blow across them while they are on. There are slots in the fixture for air to escape. If you wanted to get real DIY crazy I'm sure you could install some fans in the fixture itself, but honestly I'm not too concerned and will never do that.

blfuller123
07-24-2008, 12:28 AM
Did you change your mind about using those 8 foot fixtures you had?

James S.
07-24-2008, 1:02 AM
Did you change your mind about using those 8 foot fixtures you had?

Yes I sold them.

ZDaytonaRoadster
07-24-2008, 2:01 AM
i'm just suprised you used all wood for the stand and such, i've got a good freind whos an iron worker and he build my stand for me, soild steel, he was worried about the wieght..and my tank is only 55 gallons,..i'm sure you know what your doing, just would make me nervous..

Budsreef
07-24-2008, 7:52 AM
I bought the Hanging Kits for them. I was not sure if the feet would work with the cutouts on my tank. The inside diameter of the light is 14 3/4" and they are 47 1/4" long. The outside Diameter of the fixture just in case you need it is 19 1/2". No there are no fans included. That is the one downside of this fixture but I do plan on using some fans to blow across them while they are on. There are slots in the fixture for air to escape. If you wanted to get real DIY crazy I'm sure you could install some fans in the fixture itself, but honestly I'm not too concerned and will never do that.

Thanks James, the openning in the top of my 120G is 18" so that would work. With individual reflectors I can only get 6 bulbs over the openning so this would give me some additional light and take away the need to build a canopy.

James S.
07-24-2008, 8:02 AM
i'm just suprised you used all wood for the stand and such, i've got a good freind whos an iron worker and he build my stand for me, soild steel, he was worried about the wieght..and my tank is only 55 gallons,..i'm sure you know what your doing, just would make me nervous..

Well I don't have a friend who does Iron work, but I'm pretty handy with wood. I promise you that 6x6 posts and 2x10 framing can hold ALOOOOOT of weight. Plus the stand is screwed to two adjoining walls. No worries my friend. :)

James S.
07-24-2008, 8:05 AM
Thanks James, the openning in the top of my 120G is 18" so that would work. With individual reflectors I can only get 6 bulbs over the openning so this would give me some additional light and take away the need to build a canopy.

I think you would be very pleased with one of these over your tank.

mojo
07-24-2008, 8:12 AM
i'm just suprised you used all wood for the stand and such, i've got a good freind whos an iron worker and he build my stand for me, soild steel, he was worried about the wieght..and my tank is only 55 gallons,..i'm sure you know what your doing, just would make me nervous..

James is right - the wood can hold a LOT of weight. A 4 foot tall 2x4 (clear grade) can hold around 4000 lbs - two could hold up his 900g tank, although that might be a bit risky. I have no idea how much weight a 6x6 can hold up, but the fact that he's got multiple posts around the tank is enough to hold up four or five times what he needs.

55 gallons is only 450lbs. That's only two medium/large build men, so I wouldn't be nevous about your steel stand. In fact, I'd feel better with a wooden stand with a tank (esp. acrylic) because it absorbs some of the flex of the tank and materials, so can deform with the load, rather than creating stress points. Either way, he's fine. :up:

Skriz
07-26-2008, 10:06 PM
The lights look sweet James!

You're doing this setup right...I'm jealous!

ZDaytonaRoadster
07-26-2008, 10:14 PM
Well I don't have a friend who does Iron work, but I'm pretty handy with wood. I promise you that 6x6 posts and 2x10 framing can hold ALOOOOOT of weight. Plus the stand is screwed to two adjoining walls. No worries my friend. :)

thats cool, i'd just be paranoid :unsure: , but thats just me

JAustin
07-27-2008, 12:06 AM
WOW, your setup is killer so far! I can't wait to see how this all comes together. Good job man!

savingnemo754
08-02-2008, 6:45 PM
Are you looking to sell those reflectors you post earlier? If so how much?

James S.
08-02-2008, 8:45 PM
Reflectors already sold savingnemo754, sorry. Thanks everyone for your comments.

Just got back from Vacation in Myrtle Beach for the week and hope to get back to work on this project. Hoping to get some painting done tomorrow.

James S.
08-03-2008, 10:23 PM
So I got some painting done today. Not much, but it's getting there. Had to spend some time today keeping my current tank's happy. Water changes and tank cleaning......

Also, I got my Dart NW skimmer today from Brett. This thing looks great, I cannot wait to fire it up. Here is a pic next to a 5g salt bucket for size reference....... Skimmer is 53" tall.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1573.jpg

Akopley
08-03-2008, 10:32 PM
sweet skimmer

blfuller123
08-03-2008, 10:34 PM
I think it looked better with all the dust on it. :)

James S.
08-03-2008, 10:38 PM
I think it looked better with all the dust on it. :)

I hear ya. I couldn't stand to see it dirty. I wouldn't have been able to sleep.

Amberjack
08-04-2008, 10:11 AM
James, I picked up on this build kind of late. Unbelieveable! I'm definitely taking you up on your invite, and would gladly bring frags to see this!

James S.
08-04-2008, 4:46 PM
Better late then never :) Your welcome by anytime.

bobz
08-14-2008, 9:49 AM
Looking great! This is going to be a KILLER setup when you are done.
BZ

todd03blown
08-14-2008, 3:50 PM
WOW outstanding!!!

WILLIAM1
08-14-2008, 4:05 PM
Hers a another pic of the lights side by side. Overall Impression of these Tek lights are.
1. Nice Sleek exterior. Only 2.5" tall
2. Light weight, decent build quality. Paint finish is Impressive.
3. Acrylic shields are a bit flimsy. Interesting to see how they do with some heat on them. No bracket to hold the center of the acrylic shield in place on the end of fixture. So I'ts is only held in place along the sides.
4. Bright! Warning.....Don't look directly into the light. My eyes were killing me for about five minutes afterwards.
5. Lamps were tough to install. Not much room between the reflectors to get your fingers in there to twist the lamps.
6. Reflectors are NOT Individual reflectors as advertised. They are a one piece 8 lamp reflector. They lead you to believe that each reflector is seperate by the advertising. But the light is still extremely bright so no real complaints there.

These lights are exactly what I was looking for. They are probably not as nice as the other lights i was looking at. (ATI PowerModule and the Aquatinics) But for half the cost I'm pleased. I am looking forward to see how they look on my tank with a 48" depth. Hopefully they will give enough spread to not require additional lighting. I think with proper Aquascaping these should do just fine. :)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1259.jpg

Sweet choice man I think those will be great. The one I have on my tank is super bright and it penetrates the bottom of the tank well on my 24" deep 90 gallon. The light has a good spread. My gigas has never been so happy in the sand before. There gonna rock man. Get out those sunglasses:ahh:

WILLIAM1
08-14-2008, 4:08 PM
I have now removed my plastic cover for more ventelation to the bulbs and the cover was bowing when the light was on the tank. So I just removed it all together and threw a fan on top the light to help keep it a little cooler. But the light rocks.

James S.
08-15-2008, 7:53 PM
I like the cover just based on keeping the reflectors clean. I am going to attempt to cool the fixture by blowing air thru the sides. If I find that heat is an issue I may do the same.

BTW, No updates guys. Been really busy with work and life in general. Hoping to get some painting done this weekend.

blfuller123
08-15-2008, 7:59 PM
.

BTW, No updates guys.

BOOOOO!

Bleedingthought
08-15-2008, 11:07 PM
Definitely stick with the cover, keep them clean, and your reflector (and corals!) will thank you. ;)

WILLIAM1
08-16-2008, 1:52 AM
They have some heat coming off them I put a honeywell fan right on the top of one end of the light bowing to the other.

James S.
08-16-2008, 9:46 AM
BOOOOO!

If I only had your job :) Come help me paint today.:up:

James S.
08-16-2008, 11:38 PM
Well after doing yard work all day I decided to pop a few beers and mess around with my skimmer a bit. I am pretty impressed with it so far. After firing it up I noticed I had a couple leaks in the gaskets between the collection cup and the body. Still leaking a bit but nothing time and some more beer wont fix. I did notice this thing takes roughly 40-50 gallons of water. It sucked about 10" out of my 150 gallon sump when I fired it up.

I hooked it up without the air pump first, it does really good until the water level reaches the collection cup then the pump cavitates and shuts down. I then hooked up the Alita 40 and literally blew the lid off the top. Think God I was watching and was able to catch it. Once I get my fish room done I will get it plumbed in correctly and fine tune some things.... Well here are a few pics of it running.......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1742.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1743.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1744.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_1747.jpg

tebriel
08-17-2008, 7:37 AM
Negra Modelo, I see, good choice!

blfuller123
08-17-2008, 7:52 AM
Do you still think you need a riser extension?

James S.
08-17-2008, 9:55 AM
Do you still think you need a riser extension?

Kind of hard to tell at this point. I only ran the skimmer for an hour. It could handle a bit more height with the alita pump running, but I am not sure it would be necessary.

James S.
08-17-2008, 9:55 AM
Negra Modelo, I see, good choice!

One of my favorites :D

blfuller123
08-17-2008, 10:07 AM
You should get an air flow meter and see how much is flowing.

James S.
08-17-2008, 10:57 AM
You should get an air flow meter and see how much is flowing.

I have one. I just don't have the fittings to hook it up right now.

James S.
08-20-2008, 9:43 AM
For those following this thread. I plan on having a little " help me get this **** tank done" get together at my house this Sat. 23rd. If anyone is interested in swinging by you are more then welcome anytime throughout the day. Ultimately I would like to get the tank up on the stand this weekend if possible, so I would need atleast 4-5 guys to accomplish this.

If anyone is interested in coming out please PM me. Thanks

Barbara
08-20-2008, 10:38 AM
Is that the only thing you need help with is actually lifting it up on the stand, or are you going to do other stuff too? I'm short and not very strong physically, but if you're doing other stuff, I'd be glad to help. I'm close to you in Woodstock.

James S.
08-20-2008, 8:11 PM
I mostly plan on painting Sat. Getting the tank up on the stand would be a bonus.

Chemically_Balanced
08-24-2008, 9:53 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/perrythompson/James%20Tank/DSC02487.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/perrythompson/James%20Tank/DSC02489.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/perrythompson/James%20Tank/DSC02490.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/perrythompson/James%20Tank/DSC02493.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/perrythompson/James%20Tank/DSC02495.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/perrythompson/James%20Tank/DSC02496.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/perrythompson/James%20Tank/DSC02497.jpg

James S.
08-24-2008, 10:59 AM
Wanted to say THANKS to Simon,Steve,Thiago,and Perry for venturing out to the sticks to give me a hand getting the tank up on the stand. I appreciate all your guys help. The tank looks great and ****ing HUGE up on the stand!!!!! Cannot wait to get some water in this thing.

blfuller123
08-24-2008, 11:04 AM
Looking good James!

Barbara
08-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Wow! I recognize Simon and Tee! Very nice.

bobz
08-25-2008, 1:28 PM
Man, that looks great. sorry i missed your request for help, I would have come over.

tsciarini
08-25-2008, 4:37 PM
You ever going to put some saltwater in this thing? :D

James S.
08-26-2008, 7:17 AM
You ever going to put some saltwater in this thing? :D


Where have you been hiding at? And yes I might get some saltwater in it some time this decade.:D

Steve
08-26-2008, 8:34 AM
No problem James! Good to see you, I guess you've been hiding in that basement working so I haven't seen you in a while!

And people he can reach the skimmer cup!

tsciarini
08-26-2008, 10:00 AM
Where have you been hiding at? And yes I might get some saltwater in it some time this decade.:D
just havent been online much. I've always been around. :yes:

btw, 2010 is coming up awful quick! Looks like its almost there but as I mentioned in the past... drop me a line if you need some extra help.

James S.
09-09-2008, 9:07 AM
Well not much to update at this time.....Been busy at work and had a good time at Macna this weekend. Have not accomplished much in the fish room since the last post. I did accomplish to get some goodies for the new tank though. Here some pics......

Some ELOS Kits to get the water just right.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2052.jpg

Also hit up the many Acan vendors at Macna on the last day.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2060.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2055.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2056.jpg

Maybe one of these days I will have time to learn how to take good pictures....

James S.
09-09-2008, 9:11 AM
Here are some pics of my 125 just to keep this thread somewhat interesting....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2057.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2064.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2063.jpg

puttyman
09-11-2008, 1:03 PM
Just found this build. Wow is all I can say! I think it's cool that your taking your time to get it just right. It's a labor of love right? And good beer definitely helps.

What is the red coral behind the black fish in the first pick in your last post?

thanks

LDYBKR
09-11-2008, 2:15 PM
I think you should fill it up, get in it and do a you tube video....

James S.
09-11-2008, 2:17 PM
Puttyman, The Red Coral is actually a Sponge.

twistoflime
09-11-2008, 5:33 PM
Your Tank Is Going To Be Frigging Amazing!!!!!!

jason sartain
09-14-2008, 6:58 AM
I just found this thread and would like to say thanks for showing us your build,I'm going to be doing my 240gal in wall soon and I'm getting alot of good ideas from this,I've got the tank and the room,now I've just got to do it!

James S.
09-14-2008, 10:02 AM
"Doing it" is the hardest part. Good Luck!

Mockery
09-30-2008, 8:33 PM
Any progress?

Steve
09-30-2008, 9:11 PM
Told you that Toadstool is big! James, I think I may need to bring a chisel to your house for some acans. You never told me you bought some!

Crew
09-30-2008, 9:44 PM
i just rediscovered this build... still very impressed

everything is looking great, I bet it's a lot of fun too. I can't wait to do that myself one day after school is done

TriGa22
09-30-2008, 10:17 PM
Looking good. Still shooting to get some water in it in the decade?

sailfish
09-30-2008, 10:40 PM
Nice to see the pictures of that monster tank.The rabbit fish looks happy has he messed with any of your Sweet acans?

Joe

James S.
10-02-2008, 9:03 PM
Nice to see the pictures of that monster tank.The rabbit fish looks happy has he messed with any of your Sweet acans?

Joe

He hasn't messed with them as far as I know. He is getting bigger already. Nice fish!

James S.
10-02-2008, 9:04 PM
Looking good. Still shooting to get some water in it in the decade?

I have not been working on the room in the past month or so. Hopefully I can get some time to work on it soon. This decade would be nice!

James S.
10-02-2008, 9:05 PM
Told you that Toadstool is big! James, I think I may need to bring a chisel to your house for some acans. You never told me you bought some!

I bought some at Macna. I have allready lost one colony. They don't get fat and puffed up in my tank for some reason. But so far they seem like they are still alive. I guess I need to learn the trick to keeping them happy.

Steve
10-02-2008, 10:31 PM
You know what James, you can let me keep em in my tank and you can come by whenever you want to look at em.

James S.
10-04-2008, 6:40 PM
Ok guys, not a huge update, but I decided to do a little work on the room today. Got the display window framing done and did some sheet rock mud. Once this gets sanded and painted, I will then caulk all the seams of the stand and wall. I have some electrical to install for the lights and fans then I can place the tank into its final position.

Here some pics of todays activities......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2335.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2336.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2341.jpg

James S.
10-04-2008, 6:44 PM
Got a 160 gallon water storage tank for Saltwater Makeup.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2342.jpg

And I also spoke with the Sequence Rep at Macna about switching my Ao Smith Dart pumps into the Gold versions with Baldor Motors. Got them for my return pump and my skimmer pump.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2337.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2339.jpg

Steve
10-04-2008, 10:19 PM
Not gonna take me up on my offer James? haha

Looking good bro!

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:05 PM
Ok, it has been nearly a month since my last update. Work on the fish room has been progressing steadily. I got the viewing wall finished on the inside of the fish room,so the tank is in its final resting place. I have been installing trim,caulking everything,installing cabinets,and installing all the necessary shelves and mounts for all the equipment. Still have to install the sump and then the 106 gallon cube tank, then on to finishing the plumbing. I am hoping to have water in the system in a couple weeks for testing. I will let the system run for a couple weeks with fresh water to make sure everything is working as it should. Then it will be time to drain the system and add the sand,rock,and saltwater. Still a work in progress but I can finally see the end of this long project coming soon. Pics to follow.......

Steve
10-24-2008, 10:08 PM
Man James, looks like I'm gonna beat you to testing on the "Large Tanks"... I guess I'll have to come help you after I get mine done. Maybe give you a kick in the shins to get you going...

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:20 PM
Man James, looks like I'm gonna beat you to testing on the "Large Tanks"... I guess I'll have to come help you after I get mine done. Maybe give you a kick in the shins to get you going...

Gee thanks, Rub it in.

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:24 PM
Here is the completed viewing window.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2393.jpg


I got 80% of the electrical done in the room.

Here is the switches for the can lights and the exhaust fans in the room.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2380.jpg

Here is the outlets for the Tank lights, cooling fans, and an auxillary outlet for my Lunar Sim Moonlights and whatever else I add in the future.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2381.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2383.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2384.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2391.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2392.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2390.jpg

As you can see the outlets are run into the stand so they can be controlled by my AC3.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2636.jpg

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:29 PM
I had to relocate my return pipe that I roughed into the wall before I sheet rocked. I had noticed that the outlet on my Dart pump faces up and not to the side so there was no way for me to tie in the pump to the return pipe without doing some crazy plumbing. That would have drastically hurt my head pressure and reduced my flow to almost nothing. So I cut the wall and raised the pipe where it needed to be. Im glad I caught it before I did the base mold around the floor.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2386.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2387.jpg

As you can see it was worth the effort.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2388.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2389.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2394.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2632.jpg

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:34 PM
I built some stands for the water storage tanks and for the 106 gallon refugium. I painted them with epoxy paint and went ahead and mounted the one for the water storage tanks above the sink. I have to wait until i can mount the one for the refugium until my sump is in place.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2378.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2377.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2398.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2399.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2631.jpg

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:38 PM
Next project was mounting the prefinished cabinets I had bought. These will be very useful in the fish room for storing food,equipment,pvc parts,etc...... They are mounted above/beside where my 160 gallon saltwater mixing tank will be. They turned out really nice.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2396.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2397.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2400.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2401.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2403.jpg

Steve
10-24-2008, 10:44 PM
Looks awesome James! PM sent!

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:47 PM
Got the rail installed which will hold my Tek lights in place. I used this system so that I can slide my lights out of the way when I need to access the tank. It was rather inexpensive @ 12.95 per 6' section at Lowes and came complete with the casters and all hardware for mounting. The Manufacture claims it is rust resistant but we will see.

I will post some better pictures of how I made it work and the process involved once I get the lights mounted.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2635.jpg



Also got some of the return plumbing and the drain from the refugium installed above the tank. You can also make out in the pic, the mounts I made for the Lunar Sim Moonlights that will be controlled by my AC3. I got the holes drilled in the overflow for the three 1.5" drains and the holes drilled for the Tunze wavebox pumps.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2634.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2613.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2637.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2633.jpg

James S.
10-24-2008, 10:51 PM
If you look around the floor and the top of the stand you can see the 6" acrylic base molding I used. It is more for looks around the tank,but the floor base will be used to keep water from entering the rest of the basement in case of a flood. All the seams will be caulked and should hold water up to that height. I am using an exterior metal door on the entrance of the fish room so hopefully it wont leak. I hope I never need to test that theory out.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2632.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2636.jpg

glxtrix
10-24-2008, 11:12 PM
Coming along nice man!

purpleGORILLA
10-25-2008, 9:07 AM
Very nice man.

twocute2b4u
10-25-2008, 11:24 AM
This tank has obviously gone through some good planning. Nice job. I cannot wait see pictures of the finished product.

James S.
10-25-2008, 3:29 PM
Thanks Guys.

Twocute2b4u, you are right about that. I have spent too much time online in the last couple years researching. Hopefully everything works out as planned.

Been working this weekend on caulking the floor base and the stand. Had to drag the sump and the refugium outside to get them cleaned from months of dust that has accumulated. Also trying to clean my basement and get all my plumbing parts in one place. The basement started turning into a wreck from all the construction so it was time to step back a bit and get things organized. I would like to get the sump in place this weekend so I can continue on........

James S.
10-26-2008, 3:41 PM
A lil' update .

Got the brackets for the lighting built. I cut and painted some wood blocks to screw the track hardware , and used the hanging hardware from the Tek lights. They turned out nice, they seem to slide down the track pretty easy. Only time will tell how they actually will work. I may add some aluminum angle on one side to keep them square on the track if needed.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2662.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2664.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2665.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2657.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2666.jpg

James S.
10-26-2008, 3:49 PM
Got some plumbing done on the tank and the utility sink. Also had a helping hand today getting the sump in place. Moving along :)

Here is the sink plumbing,all I have to do is complete the drain once the sink is in place.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2655.jpg

The pipe running along the bottom of the wall is for the drain for my bar sink. It is stubbed into the main room in my basement. There is also a T fitting next to the stand that will be used to tie in the sump. It will be used for an emergency overflow just in case the sump overflows.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2654.jpg


Here are pics of the drains for the overflow. There are 3 - 1.5" drains.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2652.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2653.jpg


and finally some sump shots....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2658.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2659.jpg

Steve
10-26-2008, 5:30 PM
That sump is no joke. I've got a few ideas I want to implement into my system... just wanna run through em with you when you come down here.

WILLIAM1
10-27-2008, 12:30 AM
Wow I cant even grasm what the monthly bill will finally come out to for upkeep. I think I would have to sell a kidney. That is an amazing thread you have here. I cant wait to see those 2 tek lights fired up. I still love mine with alot of growth between the lights and the calcium reactor.

Bleedingthought
10-27-2008, 1:18 AM
James is fattening up a baby so it's worth a good bit when it's time to get the system running. ;)

blfuller123
10-27-2008, 8:14 AM
Everything is looking really good James!

James S.
10-28-2008, 2:05 PM
James is fattening up a baby so it's worth a good bit when it's time to get the system running. ;)

You know it! My son loves his fishies. :D

James S.
10-28-2008, 2:06 PM
Everything is looking really good James!

Thanks Brett. It looks like your going to beat me to the punch though.

Steve
10-28-2008, 2:11 PM
As am I...

JetChris
10-28-2008, 4:42 PM
looking good, looking forward to the finishing party!

James S.
10-29-2008, 12:15 AM
looking good, looking forward to the finishing party!

You bet, I will have plenty of refreshments for you Chris! BTW, how was the Halloween Party? Sorry I missed it.:doh:

James S.
10-29-2008, 12:18 AM
As am I...

Man you like to rub it in don't you. Wait what size is your setup again?? LOL

James S.
10-29-2008, 12:23 AM
Wow I cant even grasm what the monthly bill will finally come out to for upkeep.

I finally got the stomach to comment on this. For my sake I hope it is not much. I tried my best to keep things efficient as possible. Im "hoping" to only increase my elec. $50-$75 a month over my existing setup. If it is more then that my wife is going to seriously kick my butt. Thankfully electrical rates in Ga. are pretty reasonable.

The Tek lights are nice! I cannot wait to hang them and see what they can do. It's finally getting to the exciting part of this project.

kwl1763
10-29-2008, 10:40 AM
Ya you've designed right! Your bill won't be that bad. for my 450 (700 total gallons) mine is less then $50 increase.


It's looking great. Can't wait to see this baby fired up!

James S.
11-02-2008, 5:01 PM
Well I posted this on another thread but figured it would be cool here. My first lil' fish in the tank. As you can see he was thrilled to be in the tank!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2742.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2748.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2749.jpg

James S.
11-02-2008, 5:33 PM
I spent some time with Woody over at Precision Custom Aquariums on Thurs. I picked up a sheet of 1/4" black cast acrylic and got Woody to cut it up in sizes that I needed for the tank. I needed a couple pieces to cover up the sides of the tank to block the ugly overflow and I might also cover up the left side of the tank(Still deciding). Also I am using some to block the ugly side of my sump which used to be the overflow for the previous person's tank, and to cover up the rock area of the sump to keep light out. I am hoping for alot of sponge growth in the sump.

I also dropped of my 106 gallon cube tank to get Woody to cut off the top of the tank and make it 18" tall instead of 24". Which will serve two purposes for me....1. Eliminate the holes all ready drilled into the tank and repair the eurobracing which was damaged in the front. 2. Reduce the height of the tank to a more managable size for keeping frags,etc....

I also am getting him to build a 6x6" coast to coast overflow in the back top corner of the tank. That way the water height will be increased in the tank and it will increase the surface skimming. Should get the tank back in a week or two.

I also bought 4 - 6' sticks of 3/8" acrylic rod which I will use to keep the rock suspended off the sand in the main display and bottom of the tank in the sump. Which will hopefully eliminate the detritus from piling up and increasing the Nitrates in the system.

glxtrix
11-02-2008, 5:40 PM
Awww, too cute man! Good thinking on the acrylic rods, I wish I would have thought about that in my current tank, would really help the BB completely.

James S.
11-02-2008, 5:41 PM
Here is the black piece cut for the overflow side of the main display, you can also make out the piece for the side of the sump in front of it.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2751.jpg


After drilling the holes for the wavebox pumps, I installed the acrylic in the tank with some silicone to keep it in place....


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2848.jpg

glxtrix
11-02-2008, 5:44 PM
OMG....I see water going in the tank!!! is it time!??!?!??

James S.
11-02-2008, 5:45 PM
Today is the day for filling the tank with H20 :) I will let the tank sit for a week or two before I drain it and get some saltwater in it........

After 15 minutes......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2844.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2847.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2845.jpg

James S.
11-02-2008, 5:47 PM
here is after 45 minutes.......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2850.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2851.jpg

glxtrix
11-02-2008, 5:48 PM
Neat...how exciting!

James S.
11-02-2008, 5:49 PM
OMG....I see water going in the tank!!! is it time!??!?!??


YUP straight out of the hose.... I want the tank to sit for a couple weeks and make sure it is going to hold water. Then I will feel comfortable to start loading it with saltwater,sand and rock. That will also give me time to finish up with everything else I still need to do. Which is still a pretty long list.

sailfish
11-02-2008, 6:41 PM
Looks great now the little man will want to go swimming.

Joe

James S.
11-02-2008, 6:55 PM
Uhh ohh!!!!!!! My 1st and for sure not last flooding of the fish room. It looks like my waveboxes were not 100% sealed up when they were attached to the tank. So I had to get some 1" spa flex and syphon drain the tank down below the wavebox holes. At least it should be an easy fix. I will let the waveboxes dry overnight and then fill all the cracks with some Weld-On 16 tomorrow.

On a good note, it seams my caulking job around the base of the room is working as it should. :)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2856.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2853.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2855.jpg

glxtrix
11-02-2008, 7:49 PM
Dang sorry to hear that....good to know your leak protector is working though :)

Chemically_Balanced
11-03-2008, 7:56 AM
James, do you have any of those water alarms? I would say it could be a good thing to have. I'm not sure if you spring a big leak that your caulking is oing to hold 500 gallons of water.

Also if it was a bad leak then how would you get the door open?

Steve
11-03-2008, 9:02 AM
James, do you have any of those water alarms? I would say it could be a good thing to have. I'm not sure if you spring a big leak that your caulking is oing to hold 500 gallons of water.

Also if it was a bad leak then how would you get the door open?

I think that would be good investment. I also think that water sealant is only going to work on a small flood, but if you do get a big one say of a few inches, you'll have a hard time getting that door open, and when you do, water will rush straight out...

ckwatson
11-03-2008, 9:24 AM
just put a 1" or 2" PVC pipe through the wall to the out side of the house and put a ball valve on it(outside), if it floods the door closed just walk around and open the ball valve and let it drain? It may not be worth the work if you have to drill through concrete though. There is an out side wall in the fish room right?

Chemically_Balanced
11-03-2008, 9:26 AM
just put a 1" or 2" PVC pipe through the wall to the out side of the house and put a ball valve on it(outside), if it floods the door closed just walk around and open the ball valve and let it drain? It may not be worth the work if you have to drill through concrete though. There is an out side wall in the fish room right?

If you do this I would suggest that you also put a hose fitting on the end so you don't end up with a dead yard from the draining.

ckwatson
11-03-2008, 9:48 AM
yeah the hose end would be a good idea, if you did have to drain a couple hundred gallons of water out you would probably want to direct it away from the house.

jmaneyapanda
11-03-2008, 9:55 AM
Uhh ohh!!!!!!! My 1st and for sure not last flooding of the fish room. It looks like my waveboxes were not 100% sealed up when they were attached to the tank. So I had to get some 1" spa flex and syphon drain the tank down below the wavebox holes. At least it should be an easy fix. I will let the waveboxes dry overnight and then fill all the cracks with some Weld-On 16 tomorrow.

On a good note, it seams my caulking job around the base of the room is working as it should. :)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2856.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2853.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2855.jpg


I think I did that when we moved it in. Besides, get that leak out of the way now. EVERY aquarium has a leak at some point. Now you wont have to worry about it later, right?

James S.
11-03-2008, 11:21 AM
James, do you have any of those water alarms? I would say it could be a good thing to have. I'm not sure if you spring a big leak that your caulking is oing to hold 500 gallons of water.

Also if it was a bad leak then how would you get the door open?

No I don't have water alarms but I do plan on using one controlled by my AC3 so I can get emails if something happens.

I have a window I can use to enter the room if the tank fails and I cannot open the door. Plus the door to the fish room has a window,if all else fails a hammer would do the trick. The plan is then to syphon the water out of the fish room out the window without opening the door. But honestly I am not even sure the exterior door would hold water. All speculation at this point.

James S.
11-03-2008, 11:26 AM
just put a 1" or 2" PVC pipe through the wall to the out side of the house and put a ball valve on it(outside), if it floods the door closed just walk around and open the ball valve and let it drain? It may not be worth the work if you have to drill through concrete though. There is an out side wall in the fish room right?

I have been thinking about doing this. The water seemed to drain towards the exterior wall last night so that would probably work well. No concrete luckily but I do have the tools to accomplish that if there was.:)

I do hope the room holds water because I really want to be able to save my livestock in case of a huge tank failure. Some of the fish I am planning, are not cheap.

James S.
11-03-2008, 11:30 AM
If you do this I would suggest that you also put a hose fitting on the end so you don't end up with a dead yard from the draining.

yeah the hose end would be a good idea, if you did have to drain a couple hundred gallons of water out you would probably want to direct it away from the house.

My back yard is already setup for this. I actually plan to drain my water changes into the backyard to keep the weeds down. So no worries there.

James S.
11-03-2008, 11:32 AM
Its amazing how many post you get once your tank floods a little :). Well I got the overflows sealed up with some Weld-On. I will continue filling up the tank when I get back in town next weekend. Then I plan on getting the sump filled up and getting some circulation going. If there are no leaks I will let the system run for two weeks or so then drain it and begin the fun part.

James S.
11-03-2008, 11:36 AM
I think I did that when we moved it in. Besides, get that leak out of the way now. EVERY aquarium has a leak at some point. Now you wont have to worry about it later, right?

Gee thanks Jeremy. I was wondering who messed up my tank.:thumbs: Your right I would much rather have leaks now then later. It was a cheap fix this time.

goldenmacman
11-05-2008, 11:08 PM
any new pics?

James S.
11-06-2008, 5:35 PM
any new pics?

Nope out of town right now.:sad:

johnr2604
11-06-2008, 8:32 PM
Man, get that thing filled up.

James S.
11-06-2008, 10:39 PM
Man, get that thing filled up.

I tried that all ready.:) It does have approx. 400 gallons in the tank now though,and it appears to still be holding water. I am going to continue filling it up this weekend when I get home. Hopefully the issues I had with the waveboxes will be resolved.

jmaneyapanda
11-07-2008, 8:01 AM
Gee thanks Jeremy. I was wondering who messed up my tank.:thumbs: Your right I would much rather have leaks now then later. It was a cheap fix this time.

Yeah, you didnt see the screwdriver in my pocket. Every chance I had, I was picking and jamming at seams.

I am getting fed up with your laziness and failing to allow me to live through you. Get this thing running! How else am I supposed to feel like I need to upgrade!? You insensitive clown!

James S.
11-07-2008, 10:28 AM
Yeah, you didnt see the screwdriver in my pocket. Every chance I had, I was picking and jamming at seams.!

:doh: ****'t Man.



I am getting fed up with your laziness and failing to allow me to live through you. Get this thing running! How else am I supposed to feel like I need to upgrade!? You insensitive clown!

:eek: I'll try better BOSS! Anything you say, LOL.

LDYBKR
11-07-2008, 10:43 AM
I have enjoyed this thread. When you are ready, I hope you have a open tank party where everyone brings a frag of what you want to put into your tank as admission. Wonderful build.

James S.
11-07-2008, 10:50 AM
I have enjoyed this thread. When you are ready, I hope you have a open tank party where everyone brings a frag of what you want to put into your tank as admission. Wonderful build.

Thanks.:blush:

I plan on doing just that, stay tuned! Frags would not be required for an invite but I would gladly accept them :up:

johnr2604
11-07-2008, 11:05 AM
A colony would look like a frag in that tank. Cant wait to see it done.

LDYBKR
11-07-2008, 11:14 AM
What are you types of coral are you planning to put in this dream of a tank?

James S.
11-07-2008, 11:30 AM
A colony would look like a frag in that tank. Cant wait to see it done.

Your probably right. Also with this tank, corals will be on both sides of the rock islands instead of just the viewing side from the basement like most tanks. I have a viewing window from my fish room to enjoy the backside so its almost like having two tanks in one.

LDYBKR
11-07-2008, 11:36 AM
You could always put a camera on the tank and feed it to a large screen HD upstairs...like having another tank...

James S.
11-07-2008, 11:38 AM
What are you types of coral are you planning to put in this dream of a tank?

I love movement in corals so I plan on having the majority of my livestock composed of softies,lps &clams. SPS colonies will be spread along the top of the rock structures to give the reef some height. So basically a mixed reef. I am hoping that the SPS don't suffer, but I am willing to take my chances with smaller/cheaper frags.

Bright Color is going to be my main focus. Including corals,fish,inverts,etc...... I want the tank to be bright and vibrant like many of tanks you may have seen on Reef Central.

James S.
11-07-2008, 11:40 AM
You could always put a camera on the tank and feed it to a large screen HD upstairs...like having another tank...

Good Idea! I actually do plan on having a webcam running 24/7 so I can view my tank while I am out of town( Also make sure my wife is feeding my fish, lol !). As well as email's and text's sent to my computer and phone in case of emergency's. :up:

The TV idea would actually be pretty easy using a wireless video security system.

Bleedingthought
11-07-2008, 9:15 PM
Can't wait to see momma toadstool in that thing! :)

goldenmacman
11-07-2008, 9:20 PM
Good Idea! I actually do plan on having a webcam running 24/7 so I can view my tank while I am out of town( Also make sure my wife is feeding my fish, lol !). As well as email's and text's sent to my computer and phone in case of emergency's. :up:

The TV idea would actually be pretty easy using a wireless video security system.

A DEDICATED REEFER RIGHT HERE FOLKS!!!
HAHA
its cool, funny..

fraggel rock
11-07-2008, 10:12 PM
Hey man I scoped out your tank the other day without you even knowing....I posed as the exterminator....lol

James S.
11-08-2008, 10:31 PM
Hey man I scoped out your tank the other day without you even knowing....I posed as the exterminator....lol

My wife told me you came back. Maybe next time you come out the tank will be running.

James S.
11-08-2008, 10:32 PM
Well I tried to fill up the tank the rest of the way. One box is sealed good and the other is still leaking. I guess I suck at applying weld-on. I will try it once more and top it off with a good bead of silicone for extra protection. Should do the trick.

Scubagirl12
11-09-2008, 12:23 AM
just your sump is 13 times bigger than my tank. i would love to see it when you get it up and running. its really spectacular... even empty!

Steve
11-09-2008, 9:02 AM
just your sump is 13 times bigger than my tank. i would love to see it when you get it up and running. its really spectacular... even empty!

It is now that it's on the stand, it wasn't near as spectacular when it was on the ground. It just looked heavy.

James S.
11-09-2008, 9:36 AM
just your sump is 13 times bigger than my tank. i would love to see it when you get it up and running. its really spectacular... even empty!

Thanks. Your welcome by anytime.

James S.
11-10-2008, 7:56 PM
Got some work done this weekend. Man this is getting close. Starting to get excited!

I sealed the waveboxes again with weld-on. Then waited a day and laid down a good bead of silicone. Hopefully they are now leak proof.

I went head a siliconed the base of the tank on the stand and also around the tank against the wall. Hoping to keep the viewing window as sealed as possible.

Came across some rubber modular flooring this past week from work. I love freebies!!! It comes in 2'x2' squares and is a nice addition to the fish room.

Here is what a single panel looks like.
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2916.jpg

After a couple hours of laying on the floor and making a bunch of cuts I got the floor done. Turned out really nice and is slip resistant. Needs a good mop job but you get the idea.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2917.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2918.jpg


Got the 160 gallon water tank in and set the pump for mixing saltwater on the floor next to it. Hoping to get some water made soon.
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2919.jpg

James S.
11-10-2008, 8:02 PM
Got the stand for the Cube tank installed and cut some styrofoam board for the tops of the stands. Just have to paint the bare wood on the supports and caulk all the seams tomorrow. You can also see in the pics I got the 120 watt UV mounted. Still need to find a good spot for the ballast can and still waiting on some parts to get it complete.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2920.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2921.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2922.jpg

JetChris
11-10-2008, 8:12 PM
looking great, whats the cube for. Im assuming QT?

James S.
11-10-2008, 8:20 PM
looking great, whats the cube for. Im assuming QT?

Will be a combination refugium/frag tank. It will have a 250 watt w/2- T5 Aquamedic light over it. It started out 106 gallons but I am getting it cut down over at Woody's. Should be around 80 gallons. Dimensions are 32"x32"x18"

I actually have two 30 gallon tanks that I will use for QT. They will be setup in the storage room right outside the fish room.

WILLIAM1
11-10-2008, 8:35 PM
WOW just WOW... That room is coming along great. love the flooring I have also seen corkboard flooring that is sealed pretty neat stuff. But I like the ability to remove the mats.

James S.
11-10-2008, 8:51 PM
I have seen the corkboard flooring before, actually it was at Mockery's house on the Tour of Tanks. . It is really nice! I actually have been thinking about doing half of my basement where the pool table will be with that.

But, This flooring is cool because it is really tough and can take some abuse. I also have some leftover if I damage a section. The best part of all is it was...... FREE :)

johnr2604
11-10-2008, 8:51 PM
That fish room is off the hook. Cant wait to see it done. Hope the waveboxes are sealed now I'm crossing my fingers for you.

James S.
11-10-2008, 8:56 PM
That fish room is off the hook. Cant wait to see it done. Hope the waveboxes are sealed now I'm crossing my fingers for you.

Thanks John. I'm hoping also, it is really holding me up at this point. I really want to get some water running from the sump to the tank soon.

glxtrix
11-10-2008, 9:08 PM
Looking great man, can't wait to come see it once it's all done :)

Nano_Reefer92
11-10-2008, 9:54 PM
...SO JEALOUSE...but seriously good job and cannot wait to see it finished.

Mockery
11-10-2008, 10:00 PM
I have seen the corkboard flooring before, actually it was at Mockery's house on the Tour of Tanks. . It is really nice!

We love the cork flooring! It really is nice not much up keep like carpet and not as hard on the feet like concrete

sailfish
11-10-2008, 10:21 PM
I love the fish room you are making me very envious. I am definitly going to have to come check it out when your done.

Joe

Reefer29
11-10-2008, 11:35 PM
in my basement, we have corked floor in the theatre and pool table area, and its awsome.. you can drop a bottle of mine on it and it wont break (wine bottle) but hard enough not to notice a bouncy feeling.. good stuff

fraggel rock
11-11-2008, 1:06 AM
I have some weld on 40 if you want to try it. The psi rating on it is rediculos.

James S.
11-11-2008, 10:26 AM
Thanks guys you are all welcome by anytime. Keep a look out for a tank warming party I am planning on having.

Fraggel Rock,

Thanks for the offer. I will see how my fix works and let you know If I need to try some.

Bleedingthought
11-11-2008, 11:25 AM
Looks great, James!

You testing it tonight?

James S.
11-11-2008, 2:39 PM
Filled the tank today and it seems to be holding. Crossing my fingers.

Budsreef
11-12-2008, 10:31 AM
You gotta be getting excited, this is awesome! Did you get the acrylic covers for your Tek lights? Have you had the lights on for a heat test and or are yoiu doing any fans just for the lights?

James S.
11-12-2008, 11:53 AM
You gotta be getting excited, this is awesome! Did you get the acrylic covers for your Tek lights? Have you had the lights on for a heat test and or are yoiu doing any fans just for the lights?

Your right,at this point its a tie between excitement and nervousness. After all this hard work I just don't have time for any dissapointments at this point. It has been difficult balancing time between this tank build and spending quality time with my family. I am sure we can all relate. But I am optimistic.

As far as the lights, yes I do have the acrylic covers, but I have not had the time to test them. They are still in the original boxes since when I first tested them. I do plan on having fans blowing across the top of the tank and thru the lights. I will be using those round turbo fans that you can buy at Home Depot. I have pics of them on Page 1 of this thread. I have a total of four of them, which I was originally thinking about using two across the tank and two to blow across the sump. But only time will tell where they will be best utilized.

glxtrix
11-12-2008, 12:09 PM
Those Honeywell fans are awesome! They kick some serious air for how small they are....and they are cheap!

James S.
11-12-2008, 12:17 PM
Those Honeywell fans are awesome! They kick some serious air for how small they are....and they are cheap!

Plus they look decent and can be mounted just about anywhere. They can withstand the riggers of a saltwater environment pretty well. The ultimate fan for saltwater tanks IMO. I think I paid like $12-15 each. I have had one for nearly three years now that still works.

glxtrix
11-12-2008, 12:50 PM
Yeah man...exactly! I know Chris has one on his sump and it's caked in salt creep. I have one ready to go once my crappy desk fan poops out. I think I got mine at walmart for 10 bux.

James S.
11-13-2008, 9:48 PM
Got some work done on the tank today..........

1. Installed the black acrylic sheet on the side of the sump to cover up the ugly overflow and all the scratches. I first drilled holes where the bulkheads will go for the return pump and for the emergency drain. Then attached the acrylic with some silicone to the side of the sump.

2. Used some weld-on 16 and attached some acrylic pieces over the existing drain holes in the sump. That way if the sump ever gets high enough to dump into the overflow then it will not leak on the floor. The emergency drain I installed in the sump should eliminate that ,but I'm a big fan of redundancy.

3. Drilled holes in the sump with a 4" hole saw where the 3 drain pipes enter the sump. Drilled them oversize so the holes could support the filter socks I plan to use.

4. Finished the return pipes into the main display.

5. Installed the Dart Return Pump.

6. Then filled the sump the rest of the way and topped off the tank so I could test out the plumbing.

Pics to follow................

James S.
11-13-2008, 9:53 PM
Heres the black acrylic sheet on the side of the sump...you can make out the 2" bulkhead for the return pump and a 1" bulkhead toward the top for the emerg. drain. It will eventually be tied into the 2" drain running along the base of the fish room. I plan on using a check valve for this to eliminate the possibility of my sinks draining into my sump if it ever clogged up.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2930.jpg


The holes drilled in the sump for the drain pipes....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2932.jpg

Here you can see how the filter socks just sit right in the holes......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2933.jpg

I installed unions on the drain pipes so I could pull them out to replace the filter socks with ease......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2937.jpg

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Heres the return pump....it is not exactly how I wanted to do it, but I found out that I should have probably raised that 1.5" pipe a bit higher so I could install a ball valve above the pump. That way less water would come out of the pipe in case I needed to remove the pump for replacement or cleaning. (I did come up with a solution to this problem later on).......

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2935.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2934.jpg

I then started filling the sump with H2O.....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2936.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2938.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2939.jpg

johnr2604
11-13-2008, 10:09 PM
Looking good you are almost there. Make sure you change the filter socks often because if they get dirty and back up then they will overflow on the floor with the rim being above the sump. I'm sure you have thought about this already though.

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Never really thought about that, but it makes good sense. I was planning on replacing the filter socks every week. I have several different Microns even some that could last a few weeks without changing them.

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Got the return pump running......heres some flow into the sump

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2951.jpg

after a few seconds I realized I had a pin hole leak coming out of the outlet of the pump. I needed to take the unions apart and remove the pump. Thats when I realized how nice that ball valve above the pump would have been. So I said the hell with it and closed the ball valve going to the sump and slowly unscrewed the union at the top........what a MESS!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2945.jpg

johnr2604
11-13-2008, 10:19 PM
Never really thought about that, but it makes good sense. I was planning on replacing the filter socks every week. I have several different Microns even some that could last a few weeks without changing them. You could also use some acrylic and build a short rim (dam) around the area where the socks are mounted to direct the water back in the sump in case something did go wrong.

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:20 PM
Then it dawned on me......I need a way to drain the pump. There was a drain on the pump but once you unscrewed it you still had a hell of a mess on your hand without ball valves to keep the water back.....Then it hit me I remember seeing a guy install a RO/DI valve in place of the drain plug that Reeflo provides. Worked like a charm!!!!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2947.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2950.jpg

Now all I have to do is install some RO Line and drain the pump into a bucket or right into my sump.

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:21 PM
You could also use some acrylic and build a short rim (dam) around the area where the socks are mounted to direct the water back in the sump in case something did go wrong.

I actually though about doing that with some of the leftover black acrylic I have. But my original idea was to keep salt creep from building up along the outsides of the sump.

jmaneyapanda
11-13-2008, 10:26 PM
Never really thought about that, but it makes good sense. I was planning on replacing the filter socks every week. I have several different Microns even some that could last a few weeks without changing them.


You will need to change them more than that. I HIGHLY suggest not nmounting the sock as you have. They WILL overflow everywhere.

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:31 PM
You will need to change them more than that. I HIGHLY suggest not nmounting the sock as you have. They WILL overflow everywhere.

No worries. I will do as John suggested and build a "box" above the sump so that any water that overflow falls right back into the sump.

The filter socks I plan to run 90% of the time will not need to be changed very often. I don't remember what Micron they are, but they don't clog up as easy.

Steve
11-13-2008, 10:37 PM
Yeah, I change the filter socks on the reef at Marine Fish either every 2 days or 3 days, and we feed maybe every other day...

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:37 PM
Heres a shot of the return pipes...... they look high but this was before the tank was running. The water level while running is about 1/2" above the outlets. One pipe is the sump return and other is the drain from the cube tank. The idea here is to have the returns dump right in front of the 4 Tunze streams so the water will be distributed along the tank. This will become more important once the fuge is up and running.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2940.jpg

I shot a few videos of the tank running but photobucket is taking forever uploading them.....I will post them as soon as they are ready.

glxtrix
11-13-2008, 10:39 PM
whoo hooo, can't wait to see!

jmaneyapanda
11-13-2008, 10:41 PM
No worries. I will do as John suggested and build a "box" above the sump so that any water that overflow falls right back into the sump.

The filter socks I plan to run 90% of the time will not need to be changed very often. I don't remember what Micron they are, but they don't clog up as easy.

trust me, you will need to change them more frequently than you think. Expescially with the waveboxes you plan, detritus will be in motion, and in the socks. I thought I would have to change mine but every 2-3 days, but really, they need it almost every day.

mojo
11-13-2008, 10:42 PM
I've done this with every sequence pump I own - works great for situations just like that, although can take a while to drain. Just remember to use the o-ring that comes out of the existing plug. Also note that there's a tap on the pump outlet that you can use to keep from losing those plugs.

Looking great so far!

Then it hit me I remember seeing a guy install a RO/DI valve in place of the drain plug that Reeflo provides. Worked like a charm!!!!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k85/46bfinga/IMG_2947.jpg



Now all I have to do is install some RO Line and drain the pump into a bucket or right into my sump.

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:44 PM
trust me, you will need to change them more frequently than you think. Expescially with the waveboxes you plan, detritus will be in motion, and in the socks. I thought I would have to change mine but every 2-3 days, but really, they need it almost every day.

Hmmm I've heard that, but my schedule and my Wife's willingness while I am out of town may become a problem. I will just have to do what I can do,when I can do it.:confused2:

James S.
11-13-2008, 10:46 PM
I've done this with every sequence pump I own - works great for situations just like that, although can take a while to drain. Just remember to use the o-ring that comes out of the existing plug. Also note that there's a tap on the pump outlet that you can use to keep from losing those plugs.

Looking great so far!

I did use the o-ring.:up: Although I'm not sure I am following you on the Tap and losing plugs????? What are you referring to?

mojo
11-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Although I'm not sure I am following you on the Tap and losing plugs????? What are you referring to?

It's a minor deal. There's a little tap near the outlet of the pump - on the side of the outlet. It's the same size as the threads for the original plug, but it's not drilled through. You can use those threads to screw in and hold the plug so you don't lose it. Again, not a big deal...

Bleedingthought
11-14-2008, 12:24 AM
So, what fitting did you use to get that valve to work on the pump? I need to do that myself. :)

mojo
11-14-2008, 12:26 AM
It's just a 1/4" John Guest valve- male threads on one side and normal quick connect on the other. You can find it at home depot and lowe's...

Bleedingthought
11-14-2008, 7:22 AM
Good deal! I'll have to get it, then. I was wondering why you would ever want to take the plug out without having a mess! :)