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06-01-2008, 10:19 AM
My friend across the street just got one for his graduation it hasnt shipped yet. I thought that they would be a good thing to drive to school, to help on gas and such. Do you know anyone that has one?
haha do you not realize how small these are?? im pretty sure they arent street legal... pocket rockets are basically toys for young teenagers..
if you have ever seen the movie "Employee of the Month" the motorcycle Dane Cook drives to work is a pocket rocket, and he is limited to the sidewalk
06-01-2008, 3:46 PM
Yeah, those are just like go carts, they are for off road only. If you want a smll bike just get a used ninja 250 or similar bike. They are cheap, look ok, and get excellent mileage. Plus, they really are fun, even if they arent up there with the big 600-1000cc dogs.
06-01-2008, 7:30 PM
These are not small, and they are street legal. They are classified as mopeds. These are not the normal porcket rockets that are a foot tall these are actually pretty big.
06-01-2008, 7:36 PM
06-01-2008, 7:58 PM
.59 gal. tank? wow. Don't plan any long trips. I say go for it, I'm sure if you don't like it you could sell it off later.
06-01-2008, 8:36 PM
1) Check with the GA DMV before you buy this. The site says they're legal TO OWN...it doesn't say they're street legal. HUGE difference. That's not something you want to learn after the purchase.
2) Even if they are street legal, consider buying a larger motorcycle. Being so small puts you at roughly bumper level of most trucks and larger cars. Motorcycles are notorious for not being seen in time anyway - why put yourself in harm's way and stress your parents every time you hit the road? A permanent disability or fatality is not worth the gas you'll save. I completely agree with CorvetteCris that a 250cc bike makes much more sense - not because it's a bigger engine, but because it's a bigger bike and your chances of being seen by other drivers increases significantly.
You and I met at the last meeting and I know you're a smart cookie - use your head here Tyler. Even a full sized moped is a better choice than this bike. Yes, this bike is cool looking, but your safety is always more important.
06-01-2008, 8:59 PM
OK It is possible to get these registered. The trick is that they have everything to be street legal except a title. Because they come from china they come with a certificate of origin not a title. There is a ton of paperwork and hoops but it is possible to get this converted to a title in alot of states. Also for it to be considered a moped in ga it has to be 49cc or under and not capable of exceding 35mph. Another thing to consider is that that epa approval is an off-road approval needed in california not the same as a on road certification.
06-01-2008, 9:06 PM
Tyler - please think on this more carefully. While you may think that it would be cool to own, your safety is our main concern. If you read the safety section on the link, numbers 7, 9, and 10 are ones that you will have to pay careful attention to:
7 - Unless it is legal in the area you are riding, please do not ride these vehicles on public roads. Most every single one of our pocket bikes are legal to own in all 50 states; Some of our super pocket bikes may even be registered with the DMV and be ridden on public roads for transportation. Please check with your local DMV for details.
So yes, while it may be legal to own one, you must check with DMV to see if it is legal to drive it on the city, county, and state roads in the counties that you will be driving it (while it may be okay in DeKalb, it may not be okay in Fulton).
9 - If minors are riding pocket bikes, there must be adult supervision at all times. All riders must obey local and state laws as well as having complete knowledge of all safety precautions and measures.
If you are a minor, then you wouldn't be allowed to drive one of these to school and back unless your parents are with you.
10 - Do not ride pocket bikes in areas where there may be animals, people or other moving vehicles unless it is legal in your area.
Again, if there are other vehicles on the road (or people/animals), you wouldn't be able to drive it to school unless it is legal to do so.
Seriously, I am not trying to turn you away - I just don't want to see anything bad happen to you, for you are a smart youngin'.
06-01-2008, 9:50 PM
Thanks everyone for the support. I will make sure all of it is legal. I may switch to a ninja. What is the age for a motercycle permit? How much is a ninja?
06-01-2008, 9:59 PM
hey bud, i had my first bike as a cbr600 f4i when i was 19........you can get a ninja 250 for like 4 or 5 grand brand new but there is a site called
georgiasportbike.com or .net
it is a great site just like those for GA locals that sells used bikes for VERY CHEAP!!! and they can offer a lot of help.
The thing you need to look out for is not the bike price its your insurance cost. I had statefarm and my family had homeowners insurance and life insurance and car insurance through them so i got a great deal and my driving record was spotless i was paying 50 a month for coverage on my 600. But if you have tickets statefarm will not even consider covering you that young from what ive heard. Now progressive will cover you but i believe it would cost about 120 a month.
either way check out that site before you buy there are TONS of guys on there with great knowledge they will help you out and not lead you in the wrong direction
Good Luck, Ride Safe
Tyler, not to be blunt, but you are WAY to young to be riding a motorcycle. I know A BUNCH of people who have been hurt on them or even killed. Its not you I am worried about, it other drivers. You need to get some experience behind the while with a large metal cage around you before you get out on a bike. Drivers in ATL are crazy and you need to learn what to expect and be able to "read" what a driver will do BEFORE they do it. If you want something gas friendly, look for an older civic or corolla.
Please dont get a motorcycle at your age. People will hit you and just keep on driving in ATL.
06-01-2008, 10:07 PM
I understand. Thats why I thought that the rocket would be better to start with. It would just be for school n back. Around town, I would be even more scared for highway
06-01-2008, 10:09 PM
Yeah I hear you, but next time you are in a car going 40 mph (and your not driving) stick you head out and look down at the ground. That would be how fast you are moving even at normal speeds. If it werent ATL and a very rural area, I would say go for it. I had two people cut me off tonight on the way to Athens tonight and one of them would have hit me if I hadnt swerved onto the shoulder. Those stickers "look twice, motorcylces are everywhere" are there because so many people get killed or injured by other drivers just not looking.
06-01-2008, 10:20 PM
Im not going to be driving on the highway, just around mabye topps 45 mph
06-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Ok, Just be careful. You can still get killed at 45 mph. You get knocked off the bike and then run over and your done for. There were 4 different people at my high school in my grade die in CAR accidents, all of which were on street with a speed limit 45 mph or below.
06-01-2008, 10:58 PM
Ill wear armor and a suit, and be as safe as possible.
06-01-2008, 11:06 PM
yeah bud do be safe every single friend i have had that has ridden has gone down at least once and none of them were there fault...........when i say none i mean none were there fault.....i went down not my fault at all......u just have to always be aware of other drivers.......take the MSF safety course it will lower insurance and teach you A-LOT!!!!!! start slow be safe and be patient with everything its kinda like this hobby except your life is on the line.....no seriously it is you just have to practice riding, the more riding hours and experience you have the better you will be at reading other drivers and keeping yourself safe.
06-01-2008, 11:07 PM
but i will say that being on a bike crusing down some back roads is the best and most relaxing feeling in the world
06-01-2008, 11:09 PM
Awsome, my dad has ridden alot and he wants to fix his bike up becuase it hasent been ridden in a while and he talked me into looking at some stuff.
06-02-2008, 7:38 AM
Ill wear armor and a suit, and be as safe as possible.
Tyler, don't fool yourself. An armour suit only helps if you fall off, not if another vehicle slams into you. And being safe only gets you so far too. More often than not, it isn't the lack of safety on the motorcycle driver's behalf that gets them killed. Ask any ER nurse and they'll tell you motorcyles run on blood. What you seem to fail to understand is that everyone on here is concerned about you getting hurt. You're young and right now, you think you're immortal. Wearing a kevlar suit is a great idea (and you should wear protective gear), but I don't want you walking into this thinking the suit makes you Superman. You may fly off that bike like Superman, but I assure you, the landing won't be near as pretty. I wrecked a moped at 15; wasn't going that fast - got cut off by another driver as I rounded a curve IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD (all back roads) - hit the ditch, flew off the bike, hit a tree with my helmet and my hands - messed up my back and broke both my arms. On a moped! (School was totally embarrassing when everyone found out what happened!) It's not the speed in an accident that hurts/kills you; it's the sudden stopping!
Just curious, what do your folks think about this?
06-02-2008, 8:52 AM
Hey there Tyler, Please don't buy this bike.. The price is very inticing and I'm sure for any experienced rider this bike would probably be alot of fun to play around on, but If you ask 100 EXPERIENCED Riders I'm willing to bet you 99 of them would say they would never ride this bike as a means of transportation even if it was just 5 Miles down the road.
My first bike was a Ninja 250, Price Brand new was something like $3500 here's a link for you. http://www.mtn-motorsportsga.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=09716303X6K2K2008J7I45I 23JAMQ1561R0&veh=59096&CatDesc=Motorcycles&ModelYear=2008
I rode my 250 for about 3 Months before upgrading to a 600 CBR and don't regret it one bit, trust me me the Bigger the bike the better, and I don't mean for Speed. Do you really want to be 35" off the ground, driving on the same roads as a Woman on her cell phone in a SUBURBAN! Not Me!
06-02-2008, 9:00 AM
:confused2: So it's wrong for me to talk on my cell phone, smack the kids in the back seat, and eat my lunch while I'm driving my Excursion?
LOL! J/K!! I don't smack the kids! :D
06-02-2008, 12:02 PM
Trust me, you guys have talked me out of it. I may look into a bigger bike after I graduate.
06-02-2008, 12:21 PM
Good call. My advice is start playing the "prediction game" This is a game I play with my dad when were in the car, we watch other cars and predict what they will do. ie Green Honda is gonna change lanes without signaling or that car is going to cut me off....Half of driving a car is driving defensively and making sure that other people wont cause you to either get in a wreck or cause a wreck near you. It doesnt matter at all whose fault it is if your dead.
06-02-2008, 12:23 PM
Driving for only a year, I have seen plenty of stuff. Surprisingly never got near an accident but just the stupidity of people... In general not just while they are driving.
06-02-2008, 12:23 PM
There you go...smart choice, I have layed down a couple of gsxr's but no fault of my own..bad feeling. Here's a horror story.. buddy of mine got cut off on a ninja,lays it down..sliding on his back(wearing kevlar) goes up under a parked car....helmet didn't fit under the car..tore his head off...2 months older than me.. Bad days.. They really do run on blood
06-02-2008, 12:25 PM
Wow! You hear about the guy that was riding and ran into a pole, it went straight through him, but he survived. The pole was on a truck so it was horizontal to him.
06-05-2008, 8:24 PM
Just wondering that if one purchases a motorcycle, don't you have to attend classes or get training to get a motorcycle driving permit? Three of my co-workers got Harley's and they had to do training before they were able to get their motorcycle permit, for there are other road laws that pertain to them than to regular vehicles.
06-05-2008, 8:46 PM
It is pretty easy to get a temporary license. You just have to pass a written test, but it resticts you to only riding in the daytime, no interstates, and no passengers (I don't know who would want to ride with a rookie anyway). I believe it is only valid for 6 months, but you can always renew the temp lic. The riding course test for the permanent lic is also easy, but I remember the guy in front of me dropped his bike during the test which was an automatic failure.
06-05-2008, 9:28 PM
I took motorcycle classes and got license mailed to me when I passed the class. It was like driver's ed, except for a bike! It was really fun and I learned A LOT. I would recommend it for anyone. Plus it will lower your insurance!! :)
06-06-2008, 7:57 AM
I got mine YEARS ago and was able to take my written test and my driving test on the same day. It would surprise me if they allowed that now...
06-06-2008, 10:25 AM
I ride a Goldwing SE over 800 pounds of "white colored, dual headlighted" BIG motorcycle and people will still pull out in front of me. They say "I didn't see you coming"! If they can't see me imagine riding something that small.
06-06-2008, 11:49 AM
i believe the course you all are talking about is the MSF course.
something like that